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Re: fancy goldies - my question thread
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:09 am
by Pufferpunk
why don't you ask PP to save you two little fry??
LOL, let's not count the eggs before they're hatched! IDK if they're even fertile.
Re: fancy goldies - my question thread
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:46 am
by jus85411
Pufferpunk wrote: why don't you ask PP to save you two little fry??
LOL, let's not count the eggs before they're hatched! IDK if they're even fertile.
just planning ahead

thanks for the info and links
Re: fancy goldies - my question thread
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:42 pm
by RTR
IMHO & IME, goldfish babies are a massive waste of time. No fish other than Koi (a goldfish relative) are culled as heavily as goldfish fancies. Far less than 1% make the grade, and they require massive water volumes to rear. Buy good specimens not fully grown and enjoy them.
Re: fancy goldies - my question thread
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:35 pm
by Pufferpunk
The sailfins are sure enjoying the eggs!
Re: fancy goldies - my question thread
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:48 pm
by Arny
Pufferpunk wrote:]I have a "herd" of cories.[/i]
Do you have them in cold water?
Re: fancy goldies - my question thread
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:49 pm
by jus85411
Pufferpunk wrote:lifespan?
30+ years

holy crap really?
Re: fancy goldies - my question thread
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:08 pm
by Flutter
In other words, you need to get them NOW, otherwise they'll outlive you

Re: fancy goldies - my question thread
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:59 pm
by Pufferpunk
Arny wrote:Pufferpunk wrote:]I have a "herd" of cories.[/i]
Do you have them in cold water?
Room temp-72 degrees.
Re: fancy goldies - my question thread
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:28 pm
by goldielocke76
Flutter wrote:In other words, you need to get them NOW, otherwise they'll outlive you

LOL <3 I love it!
I keep seeing a black moor at petsmart, and I love him and his personality...no more tanks though = / /sigh. One day soon...
Re: fancy goldies - my question thread
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:39 am
by sgtmyers88
goldielocke76 wrote:Flutter wrote:In other words, you need to get them NOW, otherwise they'll outlive you

LOL <3 I love it!
I keep seeing a black moor at petsmart, and I love him and his personality...no more tanks though = / /sigh. One day soon...
I know what you mean, I was browsing around at Petsmart today looking at some 125-150 gallon tanks they had on sale for less than $500 and happen to peek at the goldfish they had for sale and saw some big beautiful Orandas and Rukins (my favorites) begging at the glass to be adopted. But my 55 is already maxed out on goldies. lol
Re: fancy goldies - my question thread
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:49 am
by LilGreenPuffer
Pufferpunk wrote:Arny wrote:Pufferpunk wrote:]I have a "herd" of cories.[/i]
Do you have them in cold water?
Room temp-72 degrees.
The cories might have a problem with unstable temperatures. Even just a couple degrees' fluctuation every day can be pretty risky and affect their immune systems.

Re: fancy goldies - my question thread
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:10 am
by RTR
Foothills Cories are only barely tropical. That is a case where you really need to research where the fish's primary home really was in the wild. Those fish breed when the spring run-off from the mountains is cooler from snow melt. And they can and do live lifespans comparable to goldfish at their optimum (low for tropical tanks).
I only very rarely use any heaters in my operating tanks. Because I always over-filter by usual hobby standards, waste equipment heat keeps my occupied tanks in the low to mid 70sF year-round, or warmer. The tank room off the pool room (the real tank room) is fully on the house HVAC to keep the temps and humidity down to acceptable levels for my fish. I do use heaters in my water aging/tempering vessels as they are primarily on the lowest tier (floor level) and do not have the equipment waste heat to keep them above ambient. Folks with only a few tanks scattered around the house who do not over-filter may commonly require heaters. I am far more likely to need chillers. That is why I had to give up the fancy goldfish when we built this house. They could only have been kept in the potting shed/secondary tank room. That room is not on the house HVAC so can be operated cooler than we keep the house. The Brits seem to have only recently rediscovered central heating which they had back in Roman times. A lot of us Yanks are to them effete fugitives from the tropics because we spoil ourselves to year-round even temperatures.
Unfortunately, fish-keeping really is easier under British conditions, with heat added to the tanks in winter to year-round. Those of us with equipment-heavy tanks have problems with marginal tropicals and fancy goldfish, and the strictly streamlined non-fancy goldfish are purely outdoor critters.
Re: fancy goldies - my question thread
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:17 pm
by Pufferpunk
I have no heaters in my fish room. With the de-humidifier blasting hot air in there, it's always a good 10 degrees hotter than the rest of the house.
Re: fancy goldies - my question thread
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:32 pm
by Arny
Pufferpunk wrote:With the de-humidifier blasting hot air in there, it's always a good 10 degrees hotter than the rest of the house.
Does it cost a lot on the electricity bill?
Re: fancy goldies - my question thread
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:36 pm
by Pufferpunk
We have 2 of them, that remove about 2g/day from the air. Between them & my 8 aquariums, our bill is close to $300/month. I have to hear about it every month!