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Re: What do you know about Discus?
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:18 pm
by Pufferpunk
Yeah, as much as I really like them, I'm done keeping them. I'll stick with what I know has long-term survival in my tanks.
Re: What do you know about Discus?
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:38 pm
by CoCoPuffs
RTR wrote:A number of Angelfish strains went away a while back in the "plague". That was basically over-breeding as well. There are limits before the critters are too weakened to be hardy. The live-bearers went that way decades ago. Now a number of tank-bred crosses are following suit. No matter how "desirable" some color forms may be, the resulting fish have lost the ability to survive even in controlled conditions.
Not in my fish tanks, no thank you.
What about FH's? I think they're pretty resilient for a hybrid...
Re: What do you know about Discus?
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:12 am
by RTR
Sorry, what are FH?
Hybrids are not the same as selection and line breeding of variant strains. But those hybrids which are fertile are generally line-bred to "fix" selected strains. That in-breeding and back-crossing may fix the desired trait(s), but commonly also "fixes" (makes permanent) some highly undesirable traits.
Re: What do you know about Discus?
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:49 am
by Pufferpunk
Flowerhorns
Re: What do you know about Discus?
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:21 am
by RTR
Exactly! Nightmare fish genetically.
Re: What do you know about Discus?
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:34 am
by CoCoPuffs
RTR wrote:Exactly! Nightmare fish genetically.
Is it true they've existed less than 20 years?
Re: What do you know about Discus?
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:30 am
by LilGreenPuffer
I don't like discus or flowerhorns. Nice colors, but they don't look right to me. Same as fancy goldfish, I guess. Something seems off about them - unhealthy, overdone.
Re: What do you know about Discus?
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:03 am
by Pufferpunk
So are some dog breeds. Same genetic breeding of mutations.
Re: What do you know about Discus?
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:56 am
by CoCoPuffs
Clones. We eat lab meat every day.....
Re: What do you know about Discus?
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:54 pm
by LilGreenPuffer
CoCoPuffs wrote:Clones. We eat lab meat every day.....
Not me, I stay the heck away from that stuff. Gross.
Re: What do you know about Discus?
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:39 pm
by CoCoPuffs
LilGreenPuffer wrote:CoCoPuffs wrote:Clones. We eat lab meat every day.....
Not me, I stay the heck away from that stuff. Gross.
Ever have a McRib?
Re: What do you know about Discus?
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:54 pm
by LilGreenPuffer
Nope. I don't eat meat if I don't approve of where it came from. McDonald's doesn't meet that qualification.
Re: What do you know about Discus?
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:03 pm
by CoCoPuffs
LilGreenPuffer wrote:Nope. I don't eat meat if I don't approve of where it came from. McDonald's doesn't meet that qualification.
How do you ascertain a meats lineage?
Re: What do you know about Discus?
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:09 pm
by Flutter
Through buying from sources that can account for their products.
Re: What do you know about Discus?
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:17 pm
by CoCoPuffs
Flutter wrote:Through buying from sources that can account for their products.
A meat dealer? Honestly, no bovine is that far removed from another....