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Re: New figure8...

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:04 am
by Pufferpunk
You mean 1.006? Depends on how long it has been at that SG & if the tank was cycled properly to begin with. She can bring it down & add Tetra Safestart to the filter.

Re: New figure8...

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:21 am
by 1puff
I raised the SG to 1.006 in one day! Anyhow, I just did a 70% water change and brought the SG to 1.002-1.003.
Ammo is at .5
Nitrite 0-.25
Nitrate below 5
Should I do another water change tonight?
If I keep the SG at 1.003-4 will it be ok?

Re: New figure8...

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:27 am
by bertie 83
Yes do more water changes. By raising the sg too fast you have knocked out your friendly bacteria causing your tank to cycle again. Daily water changes are going to be essential until you have 0 amm and nitrite

Re: New figure8...

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:31 am
by sevenyearnight
The same bacteria is present in low end brackish as in freshwater, and bacteria can and does establish with salt present. The reason it needs to be done slowly is because that bacteria is sensitive to changes in salinity, not because it can't establish.
Drop the salinity down to 1.003-1.005, that's recommended for a F8. Do 50% daily water changes until your parameters are stable.
Upgrade the tank size to at least 15 gallons.

Re: New figure8...

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:48 am
by 1puff
bertie 83 wrote:Yes do more water changes. By raising the sg too fast you have knocked out your friendly bacteria causing your tank to cycle again. Daily water changes are going to be essential until you have 0 amm and nitrite
While maintaining the SG at 1.002-3?

Re: New figure8...

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:34 am
by bertie 83
Drop to about .004. Maintain daily w/c while your tank recovers from the shock

Re: New figure8...

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:22 pm
by 1puff
It's at .003 now. I'll maintain that with daily wc's.
I did a water change this morning, should I do another one tonight?

Re: New figure8...

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:30 pm
by J-P
do you have a test kit? That will tell you when to do the changes.

Re: New figure8...

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:55 pm
by 1puff
Yes i do. But how high do I let the ammo and nitrite go before I do a water change? I'm used to keeping piranhas I'm just starting to learn about puffers.

Re: New figure8...

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:05 pm
by bertie 83
Do not allow them to get much above 0

Re: New figure8...

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:30 pm
by J-P
I doesn't matter of the fish the ammonia and nitrites are NEVER readable. Nitrates should be under 40, preferably under 20.

Re: New figure8...

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:09 pm
by 1puff
J-P wrote:I doesn't matter of the fish the ammonia and nitrites are NEVER readable. Nitrates should be under 40, preferably under 20.
Nitrates are always under 10.

Re: New figure8...

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:20 pm
by J-P
that is good. They are messy eaters so if you hit 20 do a water change. If you can keep them under 10 then that is even better.

Re: New figure8...

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:17 pm
by Nuclear_Glitter
As soon as your ammonia or nitrites are detectable, do a water change. You want to try and keep them at 0 at all times since puffers are so sensitive.

Re: New figure8...

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:46 am
by 1puff
Did a 50% wc this morning and the water params are:
Ammo 0,nitrite 0 and nitrate 5. SG is at 1.002.
If the tank is fully cycled by the end of the week,should i increase the sg to 1.004?