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Re: Dwarf Puffer- IPS
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:42 am
by CyberBob
Pufferpunk wrote:It is not an anti-parasitic at all though.
I'm not sure of your source, but it says it right on the bottle. I'm looking right at it actually.
Controls diseases caused by external fungi and parasites on fishes, including Ich, Costia, Chilodonella, Ambiphyra, Cryptocaryon, Epistylis, Oodinium and Trichodina. Contains zinc-free, chloride salt of malachite green. Use 1 teaspoon per 10 gallons of marine or freshwater. 4 oz treats 240 gallons.
Ok, so I copied that from the website ... but that's what it says hehe
http://www.fosterandsmithaquatics.com/p ... catid=4745
But, it wouldn't have been used in this case anyways.
I need to do more research on which parasites are common to dwarf puffers specifically and safe ways to treat everything.
But, I'm pretty sure that tetra clear would would be safe.
Most medicated foods soaked in garlic should work also, right?
I've also been told that Jungle Lifeguard is safe.
But, can anyone confirm those meds are safe for puffers? I'd appreciate it
Just making sure I was right about treatment for DPs
Just to be safe ... DO NOT USE Malachite Green WITH PUFFERS
just in case anyone skipped the 1st page.
Re: Dwarf Puffer- IPS
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:52 am
by Pufferpunk
I meant for internal parasites.
Re: Dwarf Puffer- IPS
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:56 am
by CyberBob
Pufferpunk wrote:I meant for internal parasites.
very true
But, it was a mistake anyways. I have to get a lot of my old habits out of my head so I can re-learn them for puffers.
Which of these would you recommend I keep on hand?
http://www.fosterandsmithaquatics.com/f ... /4615/4620
Paraguard looks like it's out of the question
Looks like parasite guard would prolly be safe. Or, would I want to soak their food in it?
Re: Dwarf Puffer- IPS
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:01 am
by Pufferpunk
Always soak food in meds for IPs. FW fish must be treated internally, they do not drink water. I had good luck with Jungle Parasite Clear fizz tabs.
Re: Dwarf Puffer- IPS
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:10 am
by CyberBob
Pufferpunk wrote:Always soak food in meds for IPs. FW fish must be treated internally, they do not drink water. I had good luck with Jungle Parasite Clear fizz tabs.
doh! jungle clear, not tetra clear. hmmm, is there a tetra clear, it must have got in my head somehow.
Yeah, I assumed I would want to soak em, just wasn't 100% sure for puffers and those specific meds.
Didn't wanna OD er sumtin. Thanks

Re: Dwarf Puffer- IPS
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:40 am
by bertie 83
Pp what is the best anti parasite treatment in you opinion anyone else in the know feel free to jump in with your dp parasite treatment experiences
Re: Dwarf Puffer- IPS
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:24 am
by CyberBob
bertie 83 wrote:Pp what is the best anti parasite treatment in you opinion anyone else in the know feel free to jump in with your dp parasite treatment experiences
On PP's advice, I plan to keep some jungle clear on hand now

But, maybe there is a better one?

If anyone starts getting skinny, soak their food in jungle clear is my understanding.
I keep jungle lifeguard on hand for ich also. I would just use half a dose I think.
I think that's the right way. So far I haven't had to use either on any puffs though

Re: Dwarf Puffer- IPS
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:10 am
by bertie 83
Fw ich is generally treated with salt and heat no chemicals needed when it can be naturally treated
Re: Dwarf Puffer- IPS
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:14 am
by CyberBob
bertie 83 wrote:Fw ich is generally treated with salt and heat no chemicals needed when it can be naturally treated
very true. I keep both marine and tank salt and all tanks have a heater. good point, natural would be better.
Re: Dwarf Puffer- IPS
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:36 pm
by Stephny691
Oh for the love of....
Why do I listen to my LFS?! WHY?!
I was told to mix the powder into boiling water, let it cool then tip it into the tank.
You have to SOAK the food. SOAK the food.
I've read that! On here! I -KNOW- I have to soak the food, so why did I tip the meds into the tank?!
Urgh. Well, luckily I have some on order, that might get here over the weekend, probably monday. And I can use that stuff properly. She's eating though, thankfully. So hopefully can keep her strength up enough, to last until I can give the meds the correct way.
She looks physically brighter in colour today, like much whiter underneath, than the greyish colour she was yesterday. The other Puffer is fine (thankfully!) infact, due to me feeding little and often to try and feed her up, he's gotten into a right little chubbo and will probably be put on a slight diet once I've gotten the girl over this!
Thanks again for the help.
And just to be clear- malachite green is bad for puffers?

Re: Dwarf Puffer- IPS
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:46 pm
by bertie 83
Good work! Which meds did you end up getting? And yes malachite bad and unnecessary lol
Re: Dwarf Puffer- IPS
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:54 pm
by Stephny691
The Kusuri. On another forum I'm on, (a UK one, but not puffer specific) one of the only other people with puffers said they'd had success with it. And I couldn't find anything else that I could trust. Kusuri does say specifically that it's okay for use with puffers. So, I've got my fingers crossed. Just itching for my own packet to arrive now!
Re: Dwarf Puffer- IPS
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 2:32 pm
by CyberBob
Stephny691 wrote:And just to be clear- malachite green is bad for puffers?

I'm not sure ... lemme check

Re: Dwarf Puffer- IPS
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:33 pm
by puffykid
I am glad you did some more research instead of just taking what the lfs as un-refutable truth. I am really hoping that the meds work well and have my fingers crossed that they will pull through just fine! Don't forget to give both puffers the medicated food since even though one isn't showing signs doesn't mean that it is free of parasites. Finally make sure you soak the food in the meds for at least 30 mins and treat for around 3 days to make sure its completely out of their system.
Best of luck to you!
Re: Dwarf Puffer- IPS
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 5:56 am
by bertie 83
Yea let us know when you get it , how it's used etc. This info will be especially useful for us uk members, also if you could post a list of ingredients etc so we could get rtr to look over it would be massively useful. Once again good work, well done