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Re: New Puffer ID

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:03 pm
by Martin Hi.
hi,
this is an intersting thing:
i have seen this species (at least i think it is the same one) very often in the red sea of együt, where it is very common in some parts.
the only species known from the red sea that look like this one are amblyrchynchotes honckennii an torquigener hypselogeneion (http://fishbase.de/Country/CountrySpeci ... 10&id=8307 take a look at my own pictures made in dahab: http://kugelfischforum.de/index.php?id= ... ureView]=0

as i have never seen fish of this species grwon bigger than maybe 10-12 cm i doubt that they are amblyrchynchotes and think that this is the species t. hypselogeneion. i even doubt that the specie a. honchennii even exist and i presume that this is one more of those puffer-misidentifications. i am of course not sure, which name scientificly should be given, but if there really exists a species, that is getting 30 cm big, then this is not the one!
therefore: no matter what people will tell you, what the scientific correct name your fish will have: i presume it will never grow bigger than about 10 cm!
it lives over sand and mud and also seeweed. it is usually found in big groups but also sometimes solitary. it feeds on small invertebrates that it blows constantly out of the sand. not reef-associated! needs lot of swimming place cause it does not seem to be territorial.
have fun with it! i would give nearly evrithing to own this fish! ;)
martin

Re: New Puffer ID

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:55 pm
by Corvus
T. hypselogeneion has much less spines than A. honckennii. In addition the A. has lappets on the caudal peduncle, the T. has not. Dead specimens should be easy to tell apart by these characters.

I doubt this puffer is of the same species as the ones you photographed in the Red Sea. They show a lot of differences with regard to coloration e.g. the orange spots of the T. hypselogeneion and the vertical lines at the side of the head; and it lacks the clear single darker patch of A. honckenii in front of the pectorals. However, I believe it is possible they at some point will belong to the same genus. If they were the same species (which I do not think) it is likely the species name would still be honckenii, because it's the older name as far as I know.

I don't know how reliable the 30 cm (1 foot) maximum size are, though.

Re: New Puffer ID

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:42 am
by SalmonAfrica
Hey guys

Here's another picture of him, doing what he loves to do....

Image

Cheers
SA

Re: New Puffer ID

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:53 pm
by Brent
http://zipcodezoo.com/Animals/A/Amblyrh ... _honkenii/

Not sure on the reliability of that site.

Re: New Puffer ID

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:49 pm
by Corvus
Read again.

This text is about the entire family, not just this species.

Re: New Puffer ID

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 6:46 pm
by dmond31
where can i get one of this guys

Re: New Puffer ID

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:18 pm
by Brent
Whoops. I just skimmed through that article. Let me edit.

Re: New Puffer ID

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:34 am
by SalmonAfrica
dmond31 wrote:where can i get one of this guys
I'm not too sure where you'd be able to get them commercially, I caught this one myself. It's a very nice fish though, it has a good temprament and is quite active.

Re: New Puffer ID

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:06 pm
by Brent
It's a real beauty! Very, very nice puffer. :D

Re: New Puffer ID

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 3:30 am
by busybones
Wow...what a beautiful Puffer!

Re: New Puffer ID

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 3:36 pm
by zombiefetus
Gorgeous fish!

And if you ever happen to come across a blaasop beauty (http://fishbase.sinica.edu.tw/Summary/S ... p?id=23126) you should send it my way ;)

Re: New Puffer ID

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 3:44 pm
by Pufferpunk
That IS a beauty!

Re: New Puffer ID

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:52 pm
by Brandon8521
WOW that beauty is really nice looking... would love to have either one of them.