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Re: New to Puffers and SW tanks
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:42 pm
by TheBlueMeanies
Thank you this site was very helpful ill be looking more into a sump and the size i would need for my tank. Any advise on if i should build one or buy one would be nice. It seems like a lot of people made their own and it worked just as well if not better then store bought ones. I am limited in space the stand under my tank isn't very big maybe 11' wide by 46" long (that's if i don't have anything else in there)
Re: New to Puffers and SW tanks
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:41 pm
by TheBlueMeanies
Ok so after hours of reading up on sumps, pumps, refugiums, and overflows i think i have an idea of what I'm going to do. I went to my LFS and looked at their sumps i cant find any 9.5 or 10 in. max in width (to fit under my tank) so I'm going with 24" L X 12" W X 16" H Eshopps wet-dry filter WD-150CS with overflow. I'm going to put it in a plastic container next to my tank (not what i wanted to do but its a much better sump then i originally planned)
http://www.eshopps.com/filters.php I still don't know what protein skimmer to go with so an any advice on that or my sump idea would help a lot.
p.s. i got a few videos at my LFS sorry about the quality i was using my 3mp camera on my phone and one at my house with a better camera

next time i go i will get a good pic of their 600 gallon main show tank its beautiful
(FYI turn down your volume i was standing next to a little kid who was kida loud)
puffer, and a few others
small snowflake eel
clown fish
the sump i think im going to get
my 1.5" rubberlip pleco back at home with my olympus fe-20 camera set to super macro he is in a 10gal freshwater tank

Re: New to Puffers and SW tanks
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:45 am
by Pufferpunk
Don't forget to check the sticky on how to get a 6% rebate & $5 off your 1st order at DFS, if you're ordering from them.
Re: New to Puffers and SW tanks
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:33 pm
by TheBlueMeanies
Well i bought the sump and it came with eshopps overflow (dual). Now to save money for lights and protein skimmer

here are some pics i need shorter intake tubes and a longer return tube but this is how its set up until then.
The sump
The overflow
Sump next to my tank and dog his name is Cesar
(P.S sorry i forgot my camera when i went to the LFS it was about to close and i wanted to get my sump today. I'll get some pics next time.)
Re: New to Puffers and SW tanks
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:34 pm
by Sponge bob
nice
Re: New to Puffers and SW tanks (status: collecting parts)
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:54 pm
by julianchan

Very nicely done!
Re: New to Puffers and SW tanks (status: collecting parts)
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:20 pm
by Pufferpunk
I'd replace those bioballs with live rock rubble. Add cheato & a light & you have a refugium!
Re: New to Puffers and SW tanks (status: collecting parts)
Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:45 am
by TheBlueMeanies
Pufferpunk wrote:I'd replace those bioballs with live rock rubble. Add cheato & a light & you have a refugium!
I think i might just do that but isn't the current supposed to be slow in a refugium? When i got my sump i was talking to the guy about protein skimmers and at my LFS they have Pacific Coast skimmers. Does anyone know if these are good or if i should look at some other brands and maybe order online?
Re: New to Puffers and SW tanks (status: collecting parts)
Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:07 pm
by TheBlueMeanies
Re: New to Puffers and SW tanks (status: collecting parts)
Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:40 pm
by DRRT
don't get crushed coral. all the detritus gets trapped in there and can cause water parameters to spike. i'd go with the sand or possibly even a deep sand bed. i have no idea what snowing is unless you are referring to when the fish move, via mouth or tail fin, the sand around and put it on the rocks. i never considered that a problem
Re: New to Puffers and SW tanks (status: collecting parts)
Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:44 pm
by TheBlueMeanies
DRRT wrote:don't get crushed coral. all the detritus gets trapped in there and can cause water parameters to spike. i'd go with the sand or possibly even a deep sand bed. i have no idea what snowing is unless you are referring to when the fish move, via mouth or tail fin, the sand around and put it on the rocks. i never considered that a problem
from what i understand its when the power heads (or any other type of pump) blow the fine sand around making it look like its snowing
Re: New to Puffers and SW tanks (status: collecting parts)
Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:48 pm
by DRRT
i've never had that problem. perhaps someone else...?
you don't have to get really fine sand, you could get the slightly larger grained sand
Re: New to Puffers and SW tanks (status: collecting parts)
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:00 am
by Pufferpunk
A lot of your planning depends on whether you are planning a FOWLR or adding a reef to the mix.
Here's to get you started:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showt ... id=1031074
A lot of that is about reefkeepign though.
Re: New to Puffers and SW tanks (status: collecting parts)
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:25 am
by TheBlueMeanies
i am building this tank around getting a puffer so if there are any corals that are safe with it then maybe but from what i have read puffers are not reef safe other then that its just going to be a FOWLR tank
(i am going to use sand but now my questions is should i buy 100% live sand or just seed dry sand with some live sand?)
OK it looks like i found an awesome fish store but its a 45 min drive for me. As of now I'm going to get the AquaC Urchin in sump protein skimmer(unless advised not to) here is a link to the store where i will be buying it.
http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merchant ... Code=AquaC. My wife and i are going to go there when they are open (they have weird hours) and see if their livestock is good and maybe get some live rock if the prices don't look to bad.

here is another link to their livestock page
http://www.premiumaquatics.com/LiveStock.htm I'm so happy i found another store i just wish it was closer to me.
Re: New to Puffers and SW tanks (status:Saving $$ for Live Rock)
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:49 pm
by TheBlueMeanies
Well all I need is salt mix, live rock, and sand. Everything else is all paid for

! I just ordered my skimmer(eshopps psk 100 rated for 75-100gal. tank), powerhead(maxijet 1200), and return pump(RIO hyper12 750gph). Hopefully I can go pick them up tomorrow.
I got everything today and i got some pics too
Eshopps PSK-100

unfinished wood

wood complete under the tank

video from new LFS