On another forum we were discussing that maybe I upped the salinity too fast? So I should maybe lower it? Or do a SW dip if it's parasites....
At this point she's doing so horribly that I'll try anything.
Fletcher is in bad shape, and I don't know why :'(
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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: Fletcher is in bad shape, and I don't know why :'(
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Re: Fletcher is in bad shape, and I don't know why :'(
BW fish swim in & out of different salinities & can handle large swings in SG with no problems. It would only harm your BB is you raised it too fast but you say the parameters are good.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: Fletcher is in bad shape, and I don't know why :'(
It used to be my GSPs tank before Fletcher moved in, so it's been cycled at that SG for over half a year.
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Re: Fletcher is in bad shape, and I don't know why :'(
I've started the SW dip... using my drip acclimator thingy to raise her SG. She's in a bucket with an airstone and heater. Plus one of her plants so she can rest on it. I hope this works.... :\
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Re: Fletcher is in bad shape, and I don't know why :'(
Aw I'm sorry. I hope she makes it as well. 
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Re: Fletcher is in bad shape, and I don't know why :'(
i really hope that Fletcher makes it for you.....
i'm so sorry for you having to watch such things happen to your little friend....
come on Fletcher!!!!!!....
i'm so sorry for you having to watch such things happen to your little friend....
come on Fletcher!!!!!!....
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Re: Fletcher is in bad shape, and I don't know why :'(
This morning she's paler, thinner, and seems to be swimming weaker.
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Re: Fletcher is in bad shape, and I don't know why :'(
Oh my gosh....................
Her eyes are clouded over, and she's trying to jump out of the water. Her sides are so sunken in she looks like just a head with a skinny tail.
And now she's sitting on her plant. I think it's almost her time.
I feel sick. :'(
Her eyes are clouded over, and she's trying to jump out of the water. Her sides are so sunken in she looks like just a head with a skinny tail.
And now she's sitting on her plant. I think it's almost her time.
I feel sick. :'(
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Re: Fletcher is in bad shape, and I don't know why :'(
She sucked up a bit of air when she was jumping... I was able to get it out without making her puff. But now she's just laying still pretty much.
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Re: Fletcher is in bad shape, and I don't know why :'(
Eyes clouded, IPlike symptoms, clamped gills... perhaps it's an internal bacterial infection that has gone systemic?
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Re: Fletcher is in bad shape, and I don't know why :'(
Now she's just on her side. The only reason I can tell she's alive is cause her gills are kind of moving.
Systemic internal bacterial infection? That sounds pretty serious.
Systemic internal bacterial infection? That sounds pretty serious.
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Re: Fletcher is in bad shape, and I don't know why :'(
My baby is gone :'(
Rest in peace, Fletcher Rayni Torrance
I love you
Rest in peace, Fletcher Rayni Torrance
I love you
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Re: Fletcher is in bad shape, and I don't know why :'(
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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