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Re: what a prize idiot (and that is being polite!!!!)
Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 7:47 pm
by JayR
The thing that gets me most about that thread is not andywg (as even though the majority are aware of some of the things he clearly believes are ok are instead wrong its still his fish) but instead the idiot defending something he knows nothing about clearly because hes known of the original poster on 'forums' for years and would quite clearly like to suck his ball bags!!!
At least one good thing come out of the thread.....I found a forum full of like minded Puffer lovers.

Re: what a prize idiot (and that is being polite!!!!)
Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:45 pm
by crazedpuffer
Haha good to have you aboard JayR! Anypics of your tank? I'd love to see it.
One thing about that thread that is really annoying me is Andy+Andy are constantly mentioning post count when nobody else is (not that I noticed)
Re: what a prize idiot (and that is being polite!!!!)
Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:51 pm
by Myaj
Oh my, we may need to play with the word censor a bit more
I haven't read the thread, but I'm sure I can imagine. Okay, how can you not consider a porc a puffer? Pufferfish is a COMMON name for crying out loud, not scientific. It describes a type of fish that inflates with air or water (whichever it is in at the moment) when threatened, or sometimes just when praticing. Doing something to provoke a puffer into puffing certainly is pretty much the definition of "stressing your fish".
Reminds me of a "discussion" I just got into with this old southern redneck on a horse forum.. someone was having issues with their goldifsh they'd just bought their kid, something like five commons stuffed into a 3 gallon tank. This guy was telling her all kinds of crap about them, horrible info, etc. I stepped in, gave her some goldfish care sites to check out and gave a short explaination of basic care (tank size, clean water, good foods) and left it at that. The guy jumped all over me yelling about how he has a degree in biology and used to breed goldfish commercially and knows a heck of a lot more and I should shut up with my bad advice.. his advice to her was things along the lines of "to tell a male from a female, take the fish and squeeze the abdomen really hard, if white stuff comes out, that's sperm and its a male". Okay, and its too hard to just look at the anus or watch for breeding tuber-whatisits for crying out loud? She asked if it would her her goldie that she accidently fed it a pea.. I told her fruits and veggies are good for them, he jumped all over me for that and told her he didn't think it was good for them.. ugh! Damn know it alls! I just kept repeating, do your research and pay attention to the fish, you don't have to listen to either of us, but please just research keeping goldies if you want them to survive. I think all the fish died *sigh*
Re: what a prize idiot (and that is being polite!!!!)
Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:18 pm
by JayR
crazedpuffer wrote:Haha good to have you aboard JayR! Anypics of your tank? I'd love to see it.
Unfortunatly only pictures of it around September time last year prior to problems and the sad event of near on wipeout (only managed to keep the Purple Tang) because of some very costly mistakes on my part with moving over to a new tank.
This is how it was and it pains me to look at these as the majority of fish had been with us from very young and for many years, were all but a few hand tame and it was generally the complete FOWLR for me.
We started the restocking program in December as Mr Purple was getting a little lonely (or maybe becoming Queen bee and we got slightly worried he would not letting anything else into the tank

) and all has been well so far........Some cracking fish we have in there so when i get time i will take some updated snaps.
I have a couple of the juvi Queen (not that great as they were taken of my iphone) as i was trying to get him ID'd not so long ago as im still not sure whether he is true Queen, a Blue or a bit of both.....His markings are very in between, seems to have some Blue in him and some Queen. :laugh:
Will definetly get bsome proper pictures up soon.
Re: what a prize idiot (and that is being polite!!!!)
Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 5:10 am
by t1gerbee
lovely tank. welcome to the forum. You won't find anyone poking and prodding their puffers on here..

Re: what a prize idiot (and that is being polite!!!!)
Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 3:29 pm
by recombinantrider
I'm happy to see you here! Your puffer is super round and cute.
Re: what a prize idiot (and that is being polite!!!!)
Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 3:59 pm
by riggers
Welcome Jay R! I really wanna go and join that forum now and tell that guy a thing or two (even though everybody already has lol). I may not be an expert, but at least I would know not to do that for god's sake.
Re: what a prize idiot (and that is being polite!!!!)
Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:33 pm
by crazedpuffer
Jay R. those are some beautiful fish and a real nice setup!
Re: what a prize idiot (and that is being polite!!!!)
Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 6:48 pm
by t1gerbee
lets all storm ultimate reef and puffer brigade through their midsts...
like flashmobbing, only in a virtual way... would be excellent.

Re: what a prize idiot (and that is being polite!!!!)
Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 7:08 pm
by LilGreenPuffer
I'm sorry, but - check me on this one - I was under the impression that swimming in your fishtank was bad for the fish...?
Giblethead.
Re: what a prize idiot (and that is being polite!!!!)
Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 7:18 pm
by riggers
Lol t1gerbee, I may just come over and join you! Do you not like the forum much?
Re: what a prize idiot (and that is being polite!!!!)
Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 6:57 am
by t1gerbee
riggers wrote:Lol t1gerbee, I may just come over and join you! Do you not like the forum much?
actually i do! It's a good reef forum, and usually i'm very happy with the care and attention given to tanks over there... but being a reef forum they don't feel the love for 'non reef friendly' fish... ie puffers..
I have noticed a trend towards coral care over fish care, like one idiot keeping an ocellaris clown in a 15 litre 'tank' with a bunch of corals because he wanted to impress the forum with his ability to keep a 'pico' tank.. and people oo'd and ahh'd over the tiny corals.. but no one mentioned the fact that he was essentially keeping a clown fish in a bucket!
This 'grab your puffer' one is the only other post i've had issue with, as i said, puffers rarely feature on the forum because of their love of eating corals.
still think pufferforum flashmobbing would be funny though.. I may suggest it in 'lounge'

Re: what a prize idiot (and that is being polite!!!!)
Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 6:44 pm
by riggers
t1gerbee wrote:still think pufferforum flashmobbing would be funny though
Lol, I'm up for it!
Re: what a prize idiot (and that is being polite!!!!)
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:22 am
by Puffer_holic
Cruelty!!!! CRUELTY!!! Would he like it if I said squeezing you is fun cause it makes you puff up! Even though I'm stressing you out. He shouldn't OWN a puffer fish.
Re: what a prize idiot (and that is being polite!!!!)
Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:05 pm
by TobiasRieper
I wrote this huge thing, but in the end it all came down to one thing...
That guy is anoying and id feel much better if a giant grabbed him and squeezed him till he walrus his pants. Kindof like he does to his fish.