BLACK spot on puffer need help ?? fast !

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Not a Reef tank .... so no worries there :)

Below is the info on REVIVE ... We went to the fish store we bought the Puffer from they suggested it .
I found the info on the net to SHOW you what looks like and is..... only time will tell if it's to help NUNE ... that' smy puffer's name :):)
I will keep updating this topic as day's go by ...hopefully with good news:):)


http://www.fishvet.com/revive.htm

Revive is used for the treatment of a range of external parasites such as Amlyoodinium (marine velvet), Brooklynella, Oodinium (freshwater velvet), Chilodonella, and gill flukes. It is also used to treat external bacterial infections such as bacterial fin and tail rot.

Revive’s synergistic combination of acriflavine, aminoacridine and formalin are more effective than either individually. Revive contains no copper, no undefined extracts or other “natural” disease fighters. Revive delivers fast, safe, and effective results.

Revive allows the marine and freshwater fish hobbyists to eradicate safely a wide range of parasites and bacterial infections from fish only, reef, or live plant aquariums with equal results.

Revive has been formulated as a practical one-time treatment, which is safe for the fish, corals and invertebrates in all freshwater and marine aquariums. The combination of a long shelf life and self-dosing bottles make this the ideal medication to keep on hand as part of your aquatic medicine cabinet.



Treats the water and eliminates external parasites such as the Amlyoodinium, Brooklynella, Chilodonella,
and gill flukes, as well as treating external bacterial infections such as fin and tail rot.
Biodegrades after some 4-5 days, leaving no harmful residue.
Does not harm Fish, Invertebrates, Live Plants or nitrifying bacteria and no test kit is necessary during treatment.
View MSDS
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Hmmm... I always question 1 "miracle" cure for everything that ails your fish (parasidic & bacterial), that won't harm your biologicc\al filtration. How good can it be? Good luck with it though, I hope it works! Keep up with water changes though, that fish needs pristine water.
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Well, i thought i would update you all :( With some Sad news my puffer died tonight @ 9pm. :( :( :( :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2:
I am very sad .... that black spot took her body over , clear up to the head!

Thanks for all your help, I am trying to upload the pics but tinypic isnt working !
I will keep trying YOU have to see how it over took her body:(

Or you can email me at : pugscardinal@aol.com and Put in subject line: NUNE PUFFER FORUM NEED PIC:(

But many thanks :)

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I'm so sorry Wendi. I think something that takes over that fast, has to be a parasite. Try loading your pics at Photobucket.
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Ok here are some pics ..... finally:( I am so sad I dont think i will sleep well tonight :(

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That poor thing. :( The only disease that I know of which spreads that fast & does that kind of damage is velvet. I still think you should post this in Kelly's Marine Depot disease forum for a correct ID. Also ask her what to do to disenfect the tank.
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I wonder if this is the same thing Wendi's porc had: http://forum.marinedepot.com/Topic92360-10-1.aspx
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That definitely looks like velvet to me. You'll have to do some hard core tank cleaning to get rid of the germies.
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marksrush wrote:I wonder if this is the same thing Wendi's porc had: http://forum.marinedepot.com/Topic92360-10-1.aspx
I don't believe so. I did look through about 40 pages of posts at that forum & was shocked not to find anything like this posted on there. I'm sure Kelly could have helped.
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poor little thing, really sad. :-(
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Well, $476.00 + $50.00 tips per guy:) later i have a clean tank again:) I had 2 saltwater tank ( well known in my town ) professionals come in and 5 hrs later a 50% water change major water adjusmet's , hospital tank set up for futher illness, and other things , my tank is happy once again :)

Still so sad about NUNE... i know she's in puffer heaven swimming around being happy :):)

thanks again !!!

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Sorry about your puffer.
It looks a lot like my old porc when it got vibrio, so I feel it's safe to assume it was completely bacterial.
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Oh my god...after reading this whole thread I feel like crying and the Porc isn't even mine. :( Its so horrific to see a loving pet get ill and watch it slowly die while you dont know how to cure it.
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