I'm not sure what happened between Thursday/Fridayish with him and Saturday/Sunday. He just started looking worse and worse, and I treat his tank same way I treat my F8's who's the same size, and he's still doing great. Just not sure...Sick GSP
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Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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PufferGrrl
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Re: Sick GSP
Nope, I guided him into a cup because I read that he should not be breathing air. I thought the same thing after I saw him like that. I'm wondering if when he was by the surface he got air towards the top and that happened. By the time I realized what had happened I wasn't able to do much for him though. I'm not sure what happened between Thursday/Fridayish with him and Saturday/Sunday. He just started looking worse and worse, and I treat his tank same way I treat my F8's who's the same size, and he's still doing great. Just not sure...
I'm not sure what happened between Thursday/Fridayish with him and Saturday/Sunday. He just started looking worse and worse, and I treat his tank same way I treat my F8's who's the same size, and he's still doing great. Just not sure...-
PufferGrrl
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Re: Sick GSP
He was in FW when I got him from the LFS, but I was slowly raising his SG... I had taken him out in a cup, rather than netting him because I know that they can puff when they breathe air.When you bought him was he in FW or SW? If he was in FW (which is more common with LFSs) then all these changes are going to make him worse, you should have kept him in FW, and done TINY changes over several weeks.
You should never ever catch a GSP in a net, however big it is, even if you think it is dead. It is the most stressful thing you could ever do, and the cause of many an instant death. They are most likely to "puff" when you take them from the water and "put in a bowl".
If the photo you're referring to is the one in my profile, that's my Nibbler, my F8, he's doing great. He is healthy as can be and I did put different substrate in there since that picture was taken. It's hard to get a good picture of him though, he's constantly moving. I wasn't able to get a picture of Chomper, the GSP.Looking at the photo I suspect this guy is very nearly a gonner. Perhaps he was sick when you got him? If he has intestinal problems, then no amount of melafix is going to fix it.
He also looks like he's been scraping himself. So get all ornaments out of the tank (they could be the problem, if they came from another tank without being hygeinically cleaned), and if you can, get a small bag of Aquarium sand, and get rid of that gravel!
The only thing I can think about Chomper is that he may have been sick when I got him or who knows what... I'm not sure... Thanks for your advice though.
Re: Sick GSP
Sorry, my mistake, got my threads mixed up, I meant this thread:PufferGrrl wrote:
If the photo you're referring to is the one in my profile, that's my Nibbler, my F8, he's doing great. He is healthy as can be and I did put different substrate in there since that picture was taken. It's hard to get a good picture of him though, he's constantly moving. I wasn't able to get a picture of Chomper, the GSP.
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viewtopic.php?f=3&t=12755
my apologies
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PuffnStuff
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Re: Sick GSP
When I had to move my puffers, I caught them with a net underwater and then let them swim out into a bag. Then lifted the bag out and acclimated them too the new tank. It seemed to work very well.
75g 2 GSP's
37g FW community
10g Softies, Clownfish, Gobies and Shrimp
1.5g Betta
10g 1 Damsel, 1 Fairy Wrasse
65g LPS and Soft Coral Reef
37g FW community
10g Softies, Clownfish, Gobies and Shrimp
1.5g Betta
10g 1 Damsel, 1 Fairy Wrasse
65g LPS and Soft Coral Reef