Sorry to hear you lost a fish.
As to where the infection came from some possibilities are:
- live marine foods
- new live rock (even from fishless tanks)
- new inverts.
- nets siphon tubing, buckets and other hardware used with another marine tank for water changes.
- Hands and arms placed in another tank.
If you only have one tank, some of the above won't apply.
Basically, you can carry diseases into your tank with anything from a marine source that wasn't quarantined.
Marine Velvet
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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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FishFancier
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Chilomycterus Orbicularis - - Location (country): USA
Re: Marine Velvet
This account, FishFancier, is Robert's
The FishFan account is Anne's. She created it, though it was formerly shared.
Though we now have separate accounts, we still share the fish.
The FishFan account is Anne's. She created it, though it was formerly shared.
Though we now have separate accounts, we still share the fish.
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FishFancier
- Puffer Fry
- Posts: 20
- Joined: Wed May 07, 2008 2:04 am
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- My Puffers: Chilomycterus schoepfi - lined form, body creamy to bright yellow on bottom surfaces, with randomized dark brow bands, dark "bridal" with yellow highlights below the eyes continuing dark area to tips of largest spines looking like horns above the eyes, dark Gotee
Chilomycterus Orbicularis - - Location (country): USA
Re: Marine Velvet - probably ich
No. Internally they have a salinity near that of the water and can't osmoregulate like fish.DRRT wrote: Can inverts withstand a hyposalinity treatment?
To a point, marine fish even benefit from hyposalinity because it reduces osmotic potentials and the reduced salt increases the oxygen carrying capacity of the water.
-Robert
This account, FishFancier, is Robert's
The FishFan account is Anne's. She created it, though it was formerly shared.
Though we now have separate accounts, we still share the fish.
The FishFan account is Anne's. She created it, though it was formerly shared.
Though we now have separate accounts, we still share the fish.
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DRRT
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- Location: Honolulu, HI
Re: Marine Velvet
Thanks guys, some of my earlier questions were just to confirm what I thought I knew.
I am really worried. Now the valentini is not eating and is swimming weird. It also has some strange dark colored things on its belly. It is also being more reclusive than normal and it just doesn't seem happy.
I am running out of options. I am slowly bringing the salinity back up to normal so I can administer copper, since hypo doesn't seem to be working fast enough to save my fish.
I am really worried. Now the valentini is not eating and is swimming weird. It also has some strange dark colored things on its belly. It is also being more reclusive than normal and it just doesn't seem happy.
I am running out of options. I am slowly bringing the salinity back up to normal so I can administer copper, since hypo doesn't seem to be working fast enough to save my fish.
i'm busy thinking of ways to remember what i was going to say
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DRRT
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Re: Marine Velvet
All my fish are dead. 
i'm busy thinking of ways to remember what i was going to say
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StormySkiez
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- Location: USA~TN
Re: Marine Velvet
I'm sorry to hear that DRRT 
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55g-2 green spotted puffers 1 year old Nov 08!
20g-5 leopard danio,4 whiteskirt tetras, amanos, nerita snails, 2 neon tetras
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edmlfc1
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- My Puffers: Elvis (Stars & Stripes) R.I.P. 9/11/11
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- Location: Texas
Re: Marine Velvet
So sorry to hear that.
Need to know what kind of puffer you have? Click on Puffer ID.....Puffer ID: ug.php/v/PufferPedia/
What to feed your puffer? Click on Feeding......
Feeding: library/feeding/feeding-your-puffers/
Have a GSP, need more information......Click on GSP Article.....
GSP Article: library/puffers-in-focus/an-introductio ... d-puffers/
What to feed your puffer? Click on Feeding......
Feeding: library/feeding/feeding-your-puffers/
Have a GSP, need more information......Click on GSP Article.....
GSP Article: library/puffers-in-focus/an-introductio ... d-puffers/
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Happy_Puffer
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The new owner of a Canthigaster jactator
Re: Marine Velvet
I am sorry to hear that I am having a similar problem in my tank. My ammonia is spiking and I have lost 2 fish in a matter of days. I know how you feel!
*Katie*
The new owner of a salt water tank
The new owner of a salt water tank
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DRRT
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- My Puffers: none cuz they eat coral, so i like chase wild ones
- Location (country): USA
- Location: Honolulu, HI
Re: Marine Velvet
Thanks for all your support. This has been a wild month, with a long stream of bad luck and other mishaps. I am going to wait 6-8 weeks before adding a new fish to ensure all traces of the disease are gone. The worst is that in less than 3 months I will be leaving for college thousands of miles away and I will no longer be in control of the tank.
i'm busy thinking of ways to remember what i was going to say
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t1gerbee
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(Non puffs-)
4 x clowns
1 x Oscar-Tropical
3 x Convicts-Tropical
1 x Map Turtle-tropical
2 x Plecs-Tropical
2 x goldfish - Location: london
Re: Marine Velvet
maybe just leave it stocked as is then.. understocked will be easier to maintain for whoever has it whilst you're away...
it's not like you'd see the new fish for long anyway...
it's not like you'd see the new fish for long anyway...
1 x 90G Juv stars and stripes puffer, Ceylon Puffer + GSP + 2 black clowns
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1 x 30G 1 x Blind goldfish
1 x 30G LPS Reef
1 x 30G 1 x Blind goldfish
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FishFancier
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- My Puffers: Chilomycterus schoepfi - lined form, body creamy to bright yellow on bottom surfaces, with randomized dark brow bands, dark "bridal" with yellow highlights below the eyes continuing dark area to tips of largest spines looking like horns above the eyes, dark Gotee
Chilomycterus Orbicularis - - Location (country): USA
Re: Marine Velvet
Losing fish sucks. Sorry to hear this.
-Robert
-Robert
This account, FishFancier, is Robert's
The FishFan account is Anne's. She created it, though it was formerly shared.
Though we now have separate accounts, we still share the fish.
The FishFan account is Anne's. She created it, though it was formerly shared.
Though we now have separate accounts, we still share the fish.