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Re: 20G High for an A. Silus

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:15 pm
by By_a_coo
Hey Chris... what wonderful tank!!! I'm jealous!!! LOL A perfect place to live and swim LOL

Re: 20G High for an A. Silus

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:08 pm
by Umbrella
I'm confused now lol. Stupid synonym nonsense... why can't they just pick one name and roll with it ? Anyways... wtf is an A. Silus ? Couldn't find it in the pedia and it looks a lot like my Modestus. Unless this one little source here is correct and we are straight up missing one.

http://bbs.99yuku.com/viewthread.php?tid=1363 about 1/2 way down to the Silus, which they call an 'Elongated Golden Puffer'. Same thing, diff. shape.

You tell me!!! lol

Thx, -UMB

Re: 20G High for an A. Silus

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:09 pm
by groovitudedude
Actually, an A. Silus is different from an A. Modestus, and I think that there should be a PufferPedia for it as well. The Silus is a little bit smaller, with gold eyes and a gold upper body. The modestus can get to be about 4 1/2 inches and is green with green eyes. I've had both kinds of puffers, and they have two completely different personalities.

Yes, I am planning on adding some decor. Do you think that the sand works well? What would you folks suggest for decor? I'm still looking for test kits...

If anybody else has a Silus or a Modestus and would like to share pictures of their tank(s)/ puffer(s), please do! :)

Re: 20G High for an A. Silus

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:07 am
by Pufferpunk
I've found the modestus to be deeper-bodied & the silus to have a pointier snout & be much shinier than the modestus. Maybe Corvus can chime in here.

Re: 20G High for an A. Silus

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:17 am
by By_a_coo
groovitudedude wrote:Yes, I am planning on adding some decor. Do you think that the sand works well? What would you folks suggest for decor? I'm still looking for test kits...
Well... I'd say Chris' decor is perfect! :lol: I love the good aquascaping we can build with sand/rock/plants... It gets so cozy...

Re: 20G High for an A. Silus

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:30 am
by groovitudedude
My silus is way less picky than my old modestus. He used to spit out bloodworms that accidentally floated into his mouth. This guy ate krill today! Yay!

PufferPunk, did you consider making a PufferPedia for the Silus?

Re: 20G High for an A. Silus

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:44 am
by Corvus
Pufferpunk wrote:I've found the modestus to be deeper-bodied & the silus to have a pointier snout & be much shinier than the modestus. Maybe Corvus can chime in here.
The genus Auriglobus has 5 described species: amabilis, modestus, nefastus, remotus, silus formerly placed in the genus Chonerhinos. They are not easy to tell apart and it is well possible all 5 have appeared in trade, but have been labelled modestus or silus. I've seen the nefastus label a few times in Europe, too. I would not trust the names with which the animals appear in trade too much.

Regrading modestus/silus:

- snout of silus is - like PP said - more pointed, to be more exact the lips are more protruding, the snout is slanting
- Caudale peduncle (the part were the tail-fin is fixed to) of silus is more slender
- spines can be directed to backwards and upwards at silus, they are exclusively poiting upwards in modestus.
- modestus gets longer and generally is more deep-bodied (as PP said) and heavier
- silus can have less finrays on dorsal and anal fin, but may have as much as modestus

Also see here where we had approx.the same discussion:
http://www.thepufferforum.com/forum/vie ... us#p107787

Adults are better to ID, the young may look pretty similar.

BTW there is a "monster" version of these puffers: Chonerhinos naritus, a kinda one foot brackish version of modestus. Know or have seen this one?

Re: 20G High for an A. Silus

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:33 am
by Pufferpunk
Wouldn't that be a cool fish to see?!

Re: 20G High for an A. Silus

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:26 am
by manutius
I would love to see one of those!! Once again Corvus great post. I was reaching for my Eberts but no need now ;)

Re: 20G High for an A. Silus

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:03 am
by Corvus
Here's a picture. Fishbase still has it under Xenopterus naritus, but the genus was changed in 1999.

http://filaman.ifm-geomar.de/Photos/Pic ... at=species

Re: 20G High for an A. Silus

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:58 pm
by Umbrella
Thanks for all the info guys, and thank you Corvus for the in depth explanation. ;D

Re: 20G High for an A. Silus

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:38 pm
by Troender
Once again Corvus: you're a living puffer encyclopedia!

And that puffer guy looks pretty big! And when they look big, they probably are. :lol:

Re: 20G High for an A. Silus

Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 1:05 am
by groovitudedude
Hope i'm not offending anybody here, but that is one ugly puffer.... I guess that to some people *COUGH* shannon *COUGH* think my Silus is ugly. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder (anybody ever seen that twilight zone episode?)

Re: 20G High for an A. Silus

Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:24 am
by Pufferpunk
Well... not the cutest puffer I've ever seen. Hard to believe it's related to my cutie modestus. Lots of folks don't really appreciate him either I thinnk, because he's not as cute as the others.

Re: 20G High for an A. Silus

Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:31 am
by Corvus
I think when they are young many people would have a problem to tell them apart from a modestus.