Pufferpunk wrote:I beleve in the olden days, women used tapeworms as a weight loss remedy. EEEEEEWWWWWW!!!
Annabelle IP's (From Tapeworms to Camallanus worms)
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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) No more worms!
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) No more worms!
That is true. *shudder* "Here, swallow this, it's a quick weight loss! Don't worry, the wiggling will stop soon." 
"Darwin swings...annnnnnd a miss. Boy Jim, Chuck's suffered at the plate tonight. He's 0 for 3 and I'm not sure he's recovered from that shoulder pull a few weeks ago. I'll bet the front office is re-thinking that contract."
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) No more worms!
actually they wouldn't tell them. they just gave people a pill (eggs) and told them to come back on a regular basis, then after a while they gave them another pill and told them to stay close to the toilet...
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) No more worms!
"Darwin swings...annnnnnd a miss. Boy Jim, Chuck's suffered at the plate tonight. He's 0 for 3 and I'm not sure he's recovered from that shoulder pull a few weeks ago. I'll bet the front office is re-thinking that contract."
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edmlfc1
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) No more worms!
Ditto!Dadof4 wrote:
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) No more worms!
Now, just how dangerous is being wormed for humans?
No matter how magnificent your successes or devastating your failures, the worlds' approximately 5 billion impoverished people could not possibly care less.
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Dadof4
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) No more worms!
Actually not very. The meds are a little harsh and the end result troubling but, if you have a good book and a soft seat you're good to go. 
"Darwin swings...annnnnnd a miss. Boy Jim, Chuck's suffered at the plate tonight. He's 0 for 3 and I'm not sure he's recovered from that shoulder pull a few weeks ago. I'll bet the front office is re-thinking that contract."
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) No more worms!
Being wormed, or being DE-wormed?
ROFL.. seriously though, I would think its the same as for fish.. a healthy specimen would tolerate it pretty well, though of course they'd have some pretty bad intestional discomfort if they had a heavy load. But the healthier the host, the harder of a time the parasite will have really doing damage and reproducing. Its when they are sick and stressed that the parasites can go hog wild and get out of control. I have a friend who picked something up years ago from her horses.. all her doc could figure out was she picked up some eggs when she was kissing their noses or something like that. She said it was no fun, but it wasn't the most horrible experience she's ever had either.
I know with horses, its pretty rare for them to have any issues at all unless they were really, really heavily infested, or they get too large of a dose for their bodyweight of a strong type of dewormer.
ROFL.. seriously though, I would think its the same as for fish.. a healthy specimen would tolerate it pretty well, though of course they'd have some pretty bad intestional discomfort if they had a heavy load. But the healthier the host, the harder of a time the parasite will have really doing damage and reproducing. Its when they are sick and stressed that the parasites can go hog wild and get out of control. I have a friend who picked something up years ago from her horses.. all her doc could figure out was she picked up some eggs when she was kissing their noses or something like that. She said it was no fun, but it wasn't the most horrible experience she's ever had either.
I know with horses, its pretty rare for them to have any issues at all unless they were really, really heavily infested, or they get too large of a dose for their bodyweight of a strong type of dewormer.
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Dadof4
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) No more worms!
I've seen it in humans, most of the problems arise from the actual medication, mainly the non-serious side effects like ringing ears, metallic taste in mouth, itching, nausea....
"Darwin swings...annnnnnd a miss. Boy Jim, Chuck's suffered at the plate tonight. He's 0 for 3 and I'm not sure he's recovered from that shoulder pull a few weeks ago. I'll bet the front office is re-thinking that contract."
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) No more worms!
I wonder how long they lived with those worms eating all their food?
http://www.diet-blog.com/archives/2007/ ... eworms.php
http://health.howstuffworks.com/tapewor ... t-loss.htm
http://www.snopes.com/horrors/vanities/tapeworm.asp
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You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) No more worms!
My brother lives in St Thomas & has no health insurance. The medical care for him is extremely poor. He says he has some sort of parasite in his digestive system he can't get rid of. In addition to the Malaria he has, I'm sure it will eventually sadly end in his early demise...
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) No more worms!
Oh, that's so sad.
Maybe this is stupid, but does the same meds that work for puffers work for people too? Like metronidazole or something?
Maybe this is stupid, but does the same meds that work for puffers work for people too? Like metronidazole or something?
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) No more worms!
Oh PP, that's so sad. 
-Jase
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) No more worms!
My brother's choice of lifestyle. He's a fantastic chef but ht's also an alcoholic & doesn't take very good care of himself. He also keeps falling off that mountain he lives on top of.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) No more worms!
That's sad PP.
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