F8 rubbing/flinging himself into things possible parasite?
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Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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taylormaio
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F8 rubbing/flinging himself into things possible parasite?
I've had this fish for almost a year now but about a month ago I noticed his eyes were cloudy and I ended up giving him melafix and treated him with general cure (prazi&metro) wasn't sure he was going to make it once he stopped eating, but he pulled through and is looking healthy again. The only problem is now he is almost rubbing himself against decorations in the tank in almost flinging himself into stuff on the side where it looks like he has a little bump so I'm worried it's a parasite of some kind. The other day I packed a snail with a good amount of general cure powder because I wasn't sure he ate enough from the worms I mixed up with it. Anyway he still seems to have a little bump on his side. I don't know know if I should keep giving him medication I don't want to overdo it but I'm hoping I gave him enough. Could it possibly be constipation perhaps? I do feed him a lot planning on skipping a day of food for him so he can clear his system? I'm just wondering if anyone has had any similar experiences with puffers acting like this and I'm confused because he looks healthy besides the bump which he has had for a while I think. Hopefully it's no big deal I just don't want to make sure I help him as best I can if it is something. Any advice would be appreciated. Sorry about the run on sentences.
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Re: F8 rubbing/flinging himself into things possible parasite?
I don't really see any bump. Careful with meds. Flashing like that usually indicates ich. What's the SG of the tank?
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: F8 rubbing/flinging himself into things possible parasite?
.008 when he wasn't doing well it was at .005 I think raising the sg helped I forgot to mention is fish has always had a twitch he does sometimes almost as if he was in pain like he jumps or something so that's always made me think that there's something going on
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Re: F8 rubbing/flinging himself into things possible parasite?
You mean 1.008? What about other parameters?
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Re: F8 rubbing/flinging himself into things possible parasite?
Other parameters are 0 ammonia and nitrites and nitrates look to be under 5, and yes 1.008
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Re: F8 rubbing/flinging himself into things possible parasite?
Thanks, I would just think it was a food bump except for that behavior that goes along with it that makes me worry. I do probably overfeed him because I haven't skipped a day in a long time, is constipation a possibility? I won't dose any more meds. I noticed he seems a lot more skittish when he wasn't doing well and seeing him itch himself and jerk occasionally like he does maybe just made me overthink it. HopefullyPufferpunk wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:09 pm I don't really see any bump. Careful with meds. Flashing like that usually indicates ich. What's the SG of the tank?
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taylormaio
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Re: F8 rubbing/flinging himself into things possible parasite?
I tested my water hardness with an API kit and I put about 50 drops in and it never turned green.. is that a problem or is there something that would throw off the test in brackish water or not be applicable?
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Re: F8 rubbing/flinging himself into things possible parasite?
I see the lump now--probably just food. Does it go down after skipping a day of eating?
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Re: F8 rubbing/flinging himself into things possible parasite?
I honestly haven't skipped a full day of eating yet, when his stomach goes down it gets harder to notice it but it seems like it reappears on the same side and I think that's the side he tries to itch himself onPufferpunk wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:14 am I see the lump now--probably just food. Does it go down after skipping a day of eating?
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Re: F8 rubbing/flinging himself into things possible parasite?
Maybe you're overfeeding? Do you know what ich looks like?
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Re: F8 rubbing/flinging himself into things possible parasite?
Would it be a lot of white spots of different sizes I saw a picture of when he was sick it almost looked like he had white spots but they were on his pores and all of the same small size so I don't think that was it
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Re: F8 rubbing/flinging himself into things possible parasite?
Could overfeeding and constipation possibly cause him to be jumping like he does he'll just be swimming along randomly and then he'll twitch like he's in pain I'm pretty sure he's not doing it intentionally I could be wrong though