Puffers don't eat. Strange movement with the teeths
Forum rules
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Puffers don't eat. Strange movement with the teeths
Hi guys. This is mi first post and I am new with puffers
I bought 2 weeks ago 2 carinotetraodon travancoricus. They are alone on 80 liters acuarium. I was feeding they with bloodworms but now they doesn't eat. When they are near worm or snail they do an strange movement with the teeths.
Last water change was last saturday around 20% of aquarium.
Parameters:
PH 7
GH 9
What can I do?
I bought 2 weeks ago 2 carinotetraodon travancoricus. They are alone on 80 liters acuarium. I was feeding they with bloodworms but now they doesn't eat. When they are near worm or snail they do an strange movement with the teeths.
Last water change was last saturday around 20% of aquarium.
Parameters:
PH 7
GH 9
What can I do?
- Pufferpunk
- Queen Admin
- Posts: 32776
- Joined: Tue May 31, 2005 11:06 am
- Gender: Female
- My Puffers: Filbert, the 12" T lineatus
Punkster, the 4" red T miurus
Mongo, the 4" A modestus
2 T biocellatus
C valentini
C coranata
C papuan
Also kept:
lorteti
DPs
suvattii
burrfish
T niphobles - Location (country): USA, Greenville, SC
- Location: Chicago
- Contact:
Re: Puffers don't eat. Strange movement with the teeths
What do you mean, "strange movement"?
LIVE bloodworms?
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
Re: Puffers don't eat. Strange movement with the teeths
Hi Pufferpunk and thanks for reply
I mean frozen blood worms. The strange movement it's like they show their teeths when they are near blood worm. I found some people doing odontology to their puffers but my puffers has 3 cm more or less.
Could it be they has the teeths too big?
How can I know if they have the teeth too big?
I mean frozen blood worms. The strange movement it's like they show their teeths when they are near blood worm. I found some people doing odontology to their puffers but my puffers has 3 cm more or less.
Could it be they has the teeths too big?
How can I know if they have the teeth too big?
- Pufferpunk
- Queen Admin
- Posts: 32776
- Joined: Tue May 31, 2005 11:06 am
- Gender: Female
- My Puffers: Filbert, the 12" T lineatus
Punkster, the 4" red T miurus
Mongo, the 4" A modestus
2 T biocellatus
C valentini
C coranata
C papuan
Also kept:
lorteti
DPs
suvattii
burrfish
T niphobles - Location (country): USA, Greenville, SC
- Location: Chicago
- Contact:
Re: Puffers don't eat. Strange movement with the teeths
DPs don't have dentistry issues, like other species.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
Re: Puffers don't eat. Strange movement with the teeths
Mmm I see. Maybe it's not DPs. The store where I bought the puffers doesn't know a lot of they...
This is my little puffer.
I put image link too because I am new and in preview doesn't show image.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jW-XgK ... esslm/view
This is my little puffer.
I put image link too because I am new and in preview doesn't show image.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jW-XgK ... esslm/view
- Pufferpunk
- Queen Admin
- Posts: 32776
- Joined: Tue May 31, 2005 11:06 am
- Gender: Female
- My Puffers: Filbert, the 12" T lineatus
Punkster, the 4" red T miurus
Mongo, the 4" A modestus
2 T biocellatus
C valentini
C coranata
C papuan
Also kept:
lorteti
DPs
suvattii
burrfish
T niphobles - Location (country): USA, Greenville, SC
- Location: Chicago
- Contact:
Re: Puffers don't eat. Strange movement with the teeths
That is a Ceylon (T fluviatilis). Same care as the SGP, but requires lager tank.
library/puffers-in-focus/an-introductio ... d-puffers/
library/puffers-in-focus/an-introductio ... d-puffers/
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
Re: Puffers don't eat. Strange movement with the teeths
Hi Pufferpunk,
I have 3 questions after read your blog:
I have 3 questions after read your blog:
- Gonna be better if I put they with saltwater. But I don't have experience with saltwater. Do I need skimmer?
- Like your blog said: Like rabbits, their teeth grow constantly and can overgrow enough to cause starvation in the fish. If they can't have odontology. How could i help they? Maybe this specie it's diferent
- I have one litle aquarium 8 liters. I want to breed my own snails. It's too small or it's okay?
- Pufferpunk
- Queen Admin
- Posts: 32776
- Joined: Tue May 31, 2005 11:06 am
- Gender: Female
- My Puffers: Filbert, the 12" T lineatus
Punkster, the 4" red T miurus
Mongo, the 4" A modestus
2 T biocellatus
C valentini
C coranata
C papuan
Also kept:
lorteti
DPs
suvattii
burrfish
T niphobles - Location (country): USA, Greenville, SC
- Location: Chicago
- Contact:
Re: Puffers don't eat. Strange movement with the teeths
Sorry, I should have been more clear. Dwarf puffers don't need dentistry. Most others (including the species you have pictured here) do, if not fed proper crunchy foods. It also looks a bit thin.
library/feeding/feeding-your-puffers/
library/feeding/problems-feeding-your-puffer/
library/hospital/dentistry/
library/feeding/feeding-your-puffers/
library/feeding/problems-feeding-your-puffer/
library/hospital/dentistry/
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
Re: Puffers don't eat. Strange movement with the teeths
Hi Pufferpunk and thanks for the links,
I think the problem it's on the store and the first 2 days they were feed only with blood worms. But like you said on the blog if it's too weak due starvation–it may not recover! Gonna be better to do odontology as fast as posible or he is too weak? Is it other option to recover him without odontology and when they are strong do odontology?
Thanks Pufferpunk.
I think the problem it's on the store and the first 2 days they were feed only with blood worms. But like you said on the blog if it's too weak due starvation–it may not recover! Gonna be better to do odontology as fast as posible or he is too weak? Is it other option to recover him without odontology and when they are strong do odontology?
Thanks Pufferpunk.
- Pufferpunk
- Queen Admin
- Posts: 32776
- Joined: Tue May 31, 2005 11:06 am
- Gender: Female
- My Puffers: Filbert, the 12" T lineatus
Punkster, the 4" red T miurus
Mongo, the 4" A modestus
2 T biocellatus
C valentini
C coranata
C papuan
Also kept:
lorteti
DPs
suvattii
burrfish
T niphobles - Location (country): USA, Greenville, SC
- Location: Chicago
- Contact:
Re: Puffers don't eat. Strange movement with the teeths
Can you show me the teeth?
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
Re: Puffers don't eat. Strange movement with the teeths
Hi PufferPunk. I don't know how to show their teeths without stress him. So I waited and when I moved the bloodworm he try eat but he doesn't eat anything.
Sorry for the pictures. This is the best resolucion and more clear I get.
Image Teeth:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PPsepY ... sqcLU/view
GIF:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VIrieY ... Ad2c7/view
At least tries to eat and is bigger than the other. The other doesn't tries to eat.
Sorry for the pictures. This is the best resolucion and more clear I get.
Image Teeth:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PPsepY ... sqcLU/view
GIF:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VIrieY ... Ad2c7/view
At least tries to eat and is bigger than the other. The other doesn't tries to eat.
- Pufferpunk
- Queen Admin
- Posts: 32776
- Joined: Tue May 31, 2005 11:06 am
- Gender: Female
- My Puffers: Filbert, the 12" T lineatus
Punkster, the 4" red T miurus
Mongo, the 4" A modestus
2 T biocellatus
C valentini
C coranata
C papuan
Also kept:
lorteti
DPs
suvattii
burrfish
T niphobles - Location (country): USA, Greenville, SC
- Location: Chicago
- Contact:
Re: Puffers don't eat. Strange movement with the teeths
Yes, his mouth does seem to look propped open from the long teeth. I do think dentistry is in order here.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
Re: Puffers don't eat. Strange movement with the teeths
Ok, then I have clave oil and all ready. I have seen a lot of videos trimming and read your article three or more times. One of them it's too weak. I guess I gonna lost him...
I am gonna contact after trimming it's ended. Any other thing before trim?
I am gonna contact after trimming it's ended. Any other thing before trim?
- Pufferpunk
- Queen Admin
- Posts: 32776
- Joined: Tue May 31, 2005 11:06 am
- Gender: Female
- My Puffers: Filbert, the 12" T lineatus
Punkster, the 4" red T miurus
Mongo, the 4" A modestus
2 T biocellatus
C valentini
C coranata
C papuan
Also kept:
lorteti
DPs
suvattii
burrfish
T niphobles - Location (country): USA, Greenville, SC
- Location: Chicago
- Contact:
Re: Puffers don't eat. Strange movement with the teeths
You can try trimming underwater w/o CO.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"