oh okay. Another stupid question...on the link I posted ( http://www.fws.gov/fisheries/aadap/PDF/ ... 7feb07.pdf) they said they use prazi to treat tapeworm...how does that work as they use it as a bath.
Thanks.
Js
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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: Worming My Congo Puffer
Would work on a SW fish. Maybe for commercial fisheries?
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Re: Worming My Congo Puffer
If I am reading the same article, you are, the link didn't work for me, so I had to search the website. It says they had determined that when treating large numbers of fish not all the fish would consume the medicated food. So the study was to see how much Prazi they could use to treat the fish by bath. The study concluded with what was a lethal dose of Prazi. If you read some of Andrew Mitchell's notes from the study, an acceptable maximum dose by bath for this fish type was only effective on around half the fish tested.fatpuffer wrote:oh okay. Another stupid question...on the link I posted ( http://www.fws.gov/fisheries/aadap/PDF/ ... 7feb07.pdf) they said they use prazi to treat tapeworm...how does that work as they use it as a bath.
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Re: Worming My Congo Puffer
Is this med dependent? Levamisole on another post here seems to suggest bah works.
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Re: Worming My Congo Puffer
A bath, of worming meds, will only work for SW fish. You need to get the medication to problem. Freshwater fish, as in the congo puffer, absorb water through their skin so there is no gut interation. Saltwater fish on the otherhand do drink water to match thier salinity with their surroundings, so j5n SW fish there will be gut interation with the meds.
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Re: Worming My Congo Puffer
Fresh water fish absorb desolved oxygen through the gill plate membrane so if there is medication or even amonia present in the water the fish will indeed at some point have the medicine in there body .
If you have a headache you take a tylonal swallow and 30 mins later your headache is gone but yet does work taken orally and I'm certain if you could shovel a Tylenol threw your skull you could cut the time down by 29.5 mins
Depending on the type of parasite you are treating for will require either prazi or lavamasole
prazi which is typically used for treating tape worm is effected by prazi indigested or through out the blood stream cause the worm to compules existing threw the intestine and often if left unchecked to long too many worms living in the fish could definitely damage the internals of fish when all the worms start to expel .
Lovamisole treatment will cause worms snails to paralyze and then could leave the fish naturally many of the parasite that lovamisole treats is barbed and can not be removed by the fish with out the worm being treated
The callamarus worm for example is 1 digested in egg form or worm form (it looks like blood worm. ) is injested then passed almost all the way before the worm then attache's to the anus and hangs absorbing nutrients from the fish
But anyways Yes dosing food is by far the best way to treat a fish for parasites but not all the time the fish is eating so dosing water is the only option after
If you have a headache you take a tylonal swallow and 30 mins later your headache is gone but yet does work taken orally and I'm certain if you could shovel a Tylenol threw your skull you could cut the time down by 29.5 mins
Depending on the type of parasite you are treating for will require either prazi or lavamasole
prazi which is typically used for treating tape worm is effected by prazi indigested or through out the blood stream cause the worm to compules existing threw the intestine and often if left unchecked to long too many worms living in the fish could definitely damage the internals of fish when all the worms start to expel .
Lovamisole treatment will cause worms snails to paralyze and then could leave the fish naturally many of the parasite that lovamisole treats is barbed and can not be removed by the fish with out the worm being treated
The callamarus worm for example is 1 digested in egg form or worm form (it looks like blood worm. ) is injested then passed almost all the way before the worm then attache's to the anus and hangs absorbing nutrients from the fish
But anyways Yes dosing food is by far the best way to treat a fish for parasites but not all the time the fish is eating so dosing water is the only option after