Porcupine Puffer Treatment?
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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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metalhead789
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Porcupine Puffer Treatment?
Hi, I have a porcupine puffer and he seems to be developing ich. He only has a few dots on his tail and a couple on his top fin. Other then that he is swimming around and eating normally. Should I let him try to fight it off on his own? Or should I step in now? Any input would be greatly appreciated!
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Re: Porcupine Puffer Treatment?
I'm not so sure that's Ich (Crypt actually, Ich is a FW parasite). Looks more fungal. Try SW Melafix & answer all the Qs above, in red.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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metalhead789
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Re: Porcupine Puffer Treatment?
Sorry! PH. 8.2, nitrate 0 Ammonia 0, salinity 1.024, nitrites 0. Tank size is a 100 gallon with 2 true perc clown fish 2" and 3'Pufferpunk wrote:I'm not so sure that's Ich (Crypt actually, Ich is a FW parasite). Looks more fungal. Try SW Melafix & answer all the Qs above, in red.
bubbles (porcupine puffer) (piggy) green spotted puffer, mandarin goby, filefish, buch of crabs and snails. I use ro/di water with .5ml of prime per 5g, tank is a little over a year old, feeding for clownfish is small twice daily and puffers once, live clams and shrimp. Do about 1-2 water changes (10-15 depending) and i calcium dose 2 part additive twice a week (tues and fri) iodine on thurs.
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metalhead789
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Re: Porcupine Puffer Treatment?
Also the splotches of white are now gone, its just little dots of white on his fins. He only has a hand full. Will he fight this on his own?metalhead789 wrote:Sorry! PH. 8.2, nitrate 0 Ammonia 0, salinity 1.024, nitrites 0. Tank size is a 100 gallon with 2 true perc clown fish 2" and 3'Pufferpunk wrote:I'm not so sure that's Ich (Crypt actually, Ich is a FW parasite). Looks more fungal. Try SW Melafix & answer all the Qs above, in red.
bubbles (porcupine puffer) (piggy) green spotted puffer, mandarin goby, filefish, buch of crabs and snails. I use ro/di water with .5ml of prime per 5g, tank is a little over a year old, feeding for clownfish is small twice daily and puffers once, live clams and shrimp. Do about 1-2 water changes (10-15 depending) and i calcium dose 2 part additive twice a week (tues and fri) iodine on thurs.
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metalhead789
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Re: Porcupine Puffer Treatment?
Better picture!!!metalhead789 wrote:Also the splotches of white are now gone, its just little dots of white on his fins. He only has a hand full. Will he fight this on his own?metalhead789 wrote:Sorry! PH. 8.2, nitrate 0 Ammonia 0, salinity 1.024, nitrites 0. Tank size is a 100 gallon with 2 true perc clown fish 2" and 3'Pufferpunk wrote:I'm not so sure that's Ich (Crypt actually, Ich is a FW parasite). Looks more fungal. Try SW Melafix & answer all the Qs above, in red.
bubbles (porcupine puffer) (piggy) green spotted puffer, mandarin goby, filefish, buch of crabs and snails. I use ro/di water with .5ml of prime per 5g, tank is a little over a year old, feeding for clownfish is small twice daily and puffers once, live clams and shrimp. Do about 1-2 water changes (10-15 depending) and i calcium dose 2 part additive twice a week (tues and fri) iodine on thurs.
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Re: Porcupine Puffer Treatment?
Still doesn't look like it to me. You could try vitamin C at a level of 25ppm:
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You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Tim
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Re: Porcupine Puffer Treatment?
I don't suppose it could just be some dirt/sand/gravel. My GSP would occasionally have very fine aragonite stuck on the fins.
*A wild water plant appears, Pig the Green Spotted Puffer is intimidated*
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metalhead789
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Re: Porcupine Puffer Treatment?
So just to be clear, what exactly do you think it is?Pufferpunk wrote:Still doesn't look like it to me. You could try vitamin C at a level of 25ppm:
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Re: Porcupine Puffer Treatment?
I said it looked fungal. Those spots look larger than Crypt, Crypt looks like someone salted the fish.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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metalhead789
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Re: Porcupine Puffer Treatment?
Alright! I will treat with the medication you mentioned and I'v been in the process of getting a uv sterilizer as well so hopefully that will help!Pufferpunk wrote:I said it looked fungal. Those spots look larger than Crypt, Crypt looks like someone salted the fish.
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arrivalanche
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Re: Porcupine Puffer Treatment?
Punk, did you seriously say ich is a fresh water disease? Hmmm me thinks not.
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Tim
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Re: Porcupine Puffer Treatment?
Ich : Ichthyophthirius multifiliisarrivalanche wrote:Punk, did you seriously say ich is a fresh water disease? Hmmm me thinks not.
Crypt (marine ich) : Cryptocaryon irritans
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Re: Porcupine Puffer Treatment?
Yes, I seriously did. Please explain otherwise???arrivalanche wrote:Punk, did you seriously say ich is a fresh water disease? Hmmm me thinks not.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: Porcupine Puffer Treatment?
^this is all you need to know.Tim wrote:
Ich : Ichthyophthirius multifiliis
Crypt (marine ich) : Cryptocaryon irritans
WARNING: Puffers are mischievous little blimps with enchanting powers. You may not be content with having just one.
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Re: Porcupine Puffer Treatment?
It always makes me nuts when folks refer to marine whitespot as ich!
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"