After a nasty accident last night, i need to euthanaise sp. my f8 and need to know how much clove oil i need to use to ensure it deffinately does the job.
Thank you
Need to Euthanaise How much Clove Oil?
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Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: Need to Euthanaise How much Clove Oil?
Anyone have any ideas? or do i just leave him in there for ages?
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Re: Need to Euthanaise How much Clove Oil?
are you sure there is nothing you can do?
what state is he in exactly.. ?
what state is he in exactly.. ?
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Re: Need to Euthanaise How much Clove Oil?
I dont know about clove oil, but i read this a while ago when i had to euthanize a tetra..
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/faustus/ni ... anasia.htm
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/faustus/ni ... anasia.htm
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Re: Need to Euthanaise How much Clove Oil?
I wouldn't be doing it if i didn't have to, a crab got hold of him last night and he has a hole into his head,back and gill, he is now just floating about unable to use his fin and tail and getting repeatedly stuck on the filter. i have now turned the filter off but i can not just sit here and watch him suffer
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Re: Need to Euthanaise How much Clove Oil?
Wow, sorry to hear this. Thanks, though, for the somewhat indirect warning about crabs and puffers together.
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Re: Need to Euthanaise How much Clove Oil?
As unfortunate as it is, a couple of drops will do the deed. I have only had to do this one time and it was very hard. I am sorry for your loss. 
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Re: Need to Euthanaise How much Clove Oil?
Sorry about the accident and your loss .
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Re: Need to Euthanaise How much Clove Oil?
I am so sorry .
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Re: Need to Euthanaise How much Clove Oil?
so sorry for your loss. its very distressing when you find a fish in that state.
I once had a ram that got pop eye and all the other fish in the tank started to eat him while he was alive. He couldnt swim around properly and had huge chunks taken out of him and all of his fins had been chewed off. I actually euthanised him using the freezing water method. He died within about 5 seconds of holding him under, but i found it incredibly distressing for the 5 seconds that he was struggling for
I hope you find the right answer for your poor pufferr
I once had a ram that got pop eye and all the other fish in the tank started to eat him while he was alive. He couldnt swim around properly and had huge chunks taken out of him and all of his fins had been chewed off. I actually euthanised him using the freezing water method. He died within about 5 seconds of holding him under, but i found it incredibly distressing for the 5 seconds that he was struggling for
I hope you find the right answer for your poor pufferr
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Re: Need to Euthanaise How much Clove Oil?
Thank you all for your kind words, Puffin is no longer suffering. I must admit tho that it was the hardest thing i have done with any of my fish. i have fed home bred feeders to my other puffer before and it didn't bother meat all but this, brought tears to my eyes and puffin will be missed greatly, he lived in my tank right next to my bed so was the first and last thing i saw every day.
Thank you all again.
Thank you all again.
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Re: Need to Euthanaise How much Clove Oil?
I hope you get better soon. You did all you could.
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Re: Need to Euthanaise How much Clove Oil?
sorry for your loss... What kind of crab?
I use an entire dropperful & after about 1/2 hour, freeze the fish. I thought we were working on an article on this for the Library at one time.
What kind of crab?I use an entire dropperful & after about 1/2 hour, freeze the fish. I thought we were working on an article on this for the Library at one time.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Re: Need to Euthanaise How much Clove Oil?
It was a red claw crab, originally there were 4 but over time puffin had eaten them, i guess this time he was either asleep or just got too close.
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Re: Need to Euthanaise How much Clove Oil?
Try getting only females. They have 2 small claws.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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