Clean-up crew for brackish water

Tain't fresh, and tain't marine! Talk about brackish setups.
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Clean-up crew for brackish water

Post by puffanutter » Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:01 am

What do you guys use to clean your tanks in a light brackish water set-up? The sg is 1.005. I have a figure 8 puffer and a couple of bumble bee gobies. I put 3 ghost shrimp in today and the fig 8 ate one already. :lol: Does anyone have any ideas?? What I mean by clean-up crew is how people keep plecostomous or loaches in freshwater tanks to keep the algae down.

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Post by Phaedrus » Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:10 am

Only thing you can do is keep up with regular maintenance. Vaccuum the substrate. Do water changes. Remove uneaten food promptly. Don't overstock, and over filter. When algae forms, as it inevitably does, simply clean it.

If your water is high in phosphates you could try some of the phosphate removal products that are out there. Seachem purigen has helped me keep my nitrates really low, but even that hasn't stopped the might diatom juggernaught.

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Post by Tihsho » Tue Apr 25, 2006 5:54 pm

Yup, totally agree with Phaedrus! Only good clean up crew for brackish is a algea pad and a gravel vac ;)
<80 gal> 2 GSPs & a Ceylon!
<75 gal> 3 Figure 8s & 1 Butterlfy Goby
<75 gal> *Empty*
<55 gal> 3 Gymnothorax polyuranodon (FW eel)
<30 long> Pair of Lorteti's & Irrubesco's, 1 DP, Endlers Livebearers, Clown Pleco, Royal Pleco, 2 Bumblebee Cats
<20 long> 4 Flounders
<4 gal> 2 Sparkling Gouramis & 3 ottos heavily planted

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Post by londonloco » Tue Apr 25, 2006 7:43 pm

that sucks!
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Post by Tihsho » Tue Apr 25, 2006 8:41 pm

Thats basically what brackish entails. And its totally worth it!
<80 gal> 2 GSPs & a Ceylon!
<75 gal> 3 Figure 8s & 1 Butterlfy Goby
<75 gal> *Empty*
<55 gal> 3 Gymnothorax polyuranodon (FW eel)
<30 long> Pair of Lorteti's & Irrubesco's, 1 DP, Endlers Livebearers, Clown Pleco, Royal Pleco, 2 Bumblebee Cats
<20 long> 4 Flounders
<4 gal> 2 Sparkling Gouramis & 3 ottos heavily planted

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Post by puffernuke » Wed Apr 26, 2006 10:03 am

you are your own crew up crew
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Post by The Fisherman » Wed Apr 26, 2006 1:35 pm

heh, yeah, algae scrubber is your clean up crew! :lol:
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Post by Woland » Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:08 pm

Totally correct.

Yet; some mollies does a bit of cleaning and is a nice addition to a brackish tank.
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Post by Tihsho » Wed Apr 26, 2006 5:38 pm

Woland wrote: Yet; some mollies does a bit of cleaning and is a nice addition to a brackish tank.
Yeah and you will be breeding your own puff food ;)
<80 gal> 2 GSPs & a Ceylon!
<75 gal> 3 Figure 8s & 1 Butterlfy Goby
<75 gal> *Empty*
<55 gal> 3 Gymnothorax polyuranodon (FW eel)
<30 long> Pair of Lorteti's & Irrubesco's, 1 DP, Endlers Livebearers, Clown Pleco, Royal Pleco, 2 Bumblebee Cats
<20 long> 4 Flounders
<4 gal> 2 Sparkling Gouramis & 3 ottos heavily planted

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Post by Snausy » Mon May 01, 2006 1:38 pm

Actually my brackish tank has several snails in it. The LFS(a good small one with knowledgeable people) had a few snails in it's brackish tanks last year and I asked about them.

Seems there is a snail that is native to brackish water and they had a few(only come in once a year for some reason). So I picked up about six thinking they would be puffer food(5 bucks a pop).

Needless to say I was pleasantly surprised when they went right to work on the algae and do a great job of cleaning up. I've lost two over the year but they are about to be back in stock so I'll pick up five more.

If it wasn't for those snails the tank would look much worse. They literally strip the algae from the wood and after the algae builds up inside on surfaces for a week and I'm wondering if they are all dead, BAM in one night they will clean it all up. I love em.

The snails are a chocolate brown if that helps anyone. Don't know the name. They are about half an inch in diameter.

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Post by Raphael » Mon May 01, 2006 3:32 pm

Maybe a photo would help. What puffer do you have?
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Post by RTR » Mon May 01, 2006 3:46 pm

The snails are likely Olive Nerites, whixh are at home in a variety of water conditions. Their shells are quite hard, and their normal posture is quite "defensive" in that they expose a bare minimum of flesh to their surroundings, If the puffer is less than a large GSP, the chances of survival are fairly good, but never guaanteed,
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Post by Phaedrus » Mon May 01, 2006 3:51 pm

snausy - How high is your SG?

How high of an SG can olive nerites handle? If they eat diatoms, and can survive high-end brackish I'm all on that!

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Post by RTR » Mon May 01, 2006 4:18 pm

Their offspring/larvae are planktonic in SW. Most of the genus is marine. The Olive and least one other species travel upstream as far as very light BW to straight FW. Anything BW should suit them, but don't just dump - drip acclimate if they are in quite different conditions.
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Post by Phaedrus » Mon May 01, 2006 4:20 pm

Interesting... I'll have to do some more reasearch and keep an eye out for some next time i'm at the lfs.

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