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GSP Breeding

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:29 pm
by kookydave
I was told that you can not tell the sex of puffer fish unless you disect them. Well my neigbor told me that if you look at the anal fin on a GSP that the females will be smaller of that then the male. Also if you look closely at the fin you would be able to see 3 little egg (i cant remember waht he called them.) I am just curious if that is true or not. I am to scared to take my puffers out of water to check or look. :shock:

Re: GSP Breeding

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:36 pm
by LilGreenPuffer
Don't take them out!

There is no way. Even the company that finally managed to breed them hasn't found a way unless they actually observe them spawning.

Re: GSP Breeding

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:41 pm
by busybones
+1

We really need to focus on getting your tank healthy! :whip:

Re: GSP Breeding

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:18 am
by Markgilst
Would this apply to f8's aswell?

Re: GSP Breeding

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:59 am
by Dadof4
Yes this would apply to F8's as well. With little exception (Dwarfs being prime example) only the puffer really knows what sex it is.

Re: GSP Breeding

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:38 am
by PolishPuff
kookydave wrote:I was told that you can not tell the sex of puffer fish unless you disect them. Well my neigbor told me that if you look at the anal fin on a GSP that the females will be smaller of that then the male. Also if you look closely at the fin you would be able to see 3 little egg (i cant remember waht he called them.) I am just curious if that is true or not. I am to scared to take my puffers out of water to check or look. :shock:
I know, sometimes I cant understand why we can't use are technology to find out sex of a puffer. Let say you buy a 200gal tank and 5 GSP, your odds of breeding could be zero. When I was reading what kookydave wrote I was hoping that's kind of a clue of sexing.

Re: GSP Breeding

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:42 am
by LilGreenPuffer
kookydave wrote:(i cant remember waht he called them.)
Ovipositor.

Ovum, Latin for egg, as in ovary. Posi, Latin for putting or placing, as in deposit. "Egg depositor."

Re: GSP Breeding

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:23 pm
by Myaj
Those who have bred some species of puffers (very few species do breed in captivity) say that the females get quite a bit more round in shape, obviously eggy.. of course, you'd need to have excellent water quality, perfect conditions and good food to bring them into breeding condition to see that.

I believe the company that is artificially breeding them (harvesting eggs and sperm and fertilizing themselves, not letting the fish to it naturally), uses hormones to bring them into breeding condition. Overall, not a project the average fishkeeper can tackle. But it gives us hope!

I sometimes wonder if there is a teeny tiny ultrasound machine out there that could see the reproductive organs, but you'd probably have to sedate the fish, etc, blah blah.

Re: GSP Breeding

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:56 am
by DYF
Bit of clove oil, simple ;)

Re: GSP Breeding

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 10:51 am
by KorrepZ
You could always just turn Days of our Lives on on the telly. If the puffer "runs" and hides.... It's def a male :P

Re: GSP Breeding

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 12:39 pm
by Pufferpunk
DYF wrote:Bit of clove oil, simple ;)
I wouldn't...

Re: GSP Breeding

Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 12:58 pm
by J-P
KorrepZ wrote:You could always just turn Days of our Lives on on the telly. If the puffer "runs" and hides.... It's def a male :P

I'm not too sure about that theory ;) haha I threw a BBQ party in the summer and had a live Heavy Metal band play.. next thing we new we had 6 racoons sitting at the door watching the bad! It ws too funny! Rockn' Racoons!

Re: GSP Breeding

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 11:08 am
by RTR
If you get six young fish, your odds of getting at least one pair are excellent. You might even get two pairs, but the odd are not as good for that. It does not guarantee compatibility though. And we have no clue as to BW breeding triggers.

If the fish are uniform size and markings, random choice is fine for the six. If there is variation in size and markings, try to cover the range.

Re: GSP Breeding

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 11:35 am
by PolishPuff
One of my two F8's belly is bigger them the other. They are same size about 2inch long, but even after one day of not feeding them, one of F8's belly is still nicely round, when the others belly size got smaller. It wasn't always like that.

Re: GSP Breeding

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 2:59 pm
by LilGreenPuffer
Pufferpunk wrote:
DYF wrote:Bit of clove oil, simple ;)
I wouldn't...
Agreed. Sedate fish only when necessary, and try to avoid clove oil when possible. It has serious risks and can cause brain damage.