Black River Puffer *Pictures*
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- Figure 8 Puffer
- Posts: 201
- Joined: Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:42 pm
- Gender: Female
- My Puffers: Pufferless since Nova passed; had 2 red T.miuris, 4 T.biocellatus for many years.
- Location (country): KY (USA)
- Location: (US) Kentucky
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- Figure 8 Puffer
- Posts: 201
- Joined: Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:42 pm
- Gender: Female
- My Puffers: Pufferless since Nova passed; had 2 red T.miuris, 4 T.biocellatus for many years.
- Location (country): KY (USA)
- Location: (US) Kentucky
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- Former Staff Member
- Posts: 376
- Joined: Sat Jun 04, 2005 3:12 am
- My Puffers: 1 X Tetraodon nigroviridis, 1 X Monotrete palembangensis.
- Location (country): Norway
- Location: Oslo, NORWAY
Not very much known about this fish.
They used to be rare, but lately export has picked up.
Certainly a member of the "Target Group", comes from the Mekong Delta.
Will grow to around 10 cm.
Very agressive.
I have 2 specimens.
Tried to keep them both in a 42 gallon.
One went straight for the eyes of the other.
Nasty wounds, had to separate them.
Substrate is your choice, the fish wont mind.
Heave decor and planting etc.
Fairly active fish, seems to be hunting for snails.
As to tank size; at least 20 gallons.
Personally I would suggest 40 gallons as a comfy sized tank.
Prize?
Wouldnt know.
Got mine for free!
They used to be rare, but lately export has picked up.
Certainly a member of the "Target Group", comes from the Mekong Delta.
Will grow to around 10 cm.
Very agressive.
I have 2 specimens.
Tried to keep them both in a 42 gallon.
One went straight for the eyes of the other.
Nasty wounds, had to separate them.
Substrate is your choice, the fish wont mind.
Heave decor and planting etc.
Fairly active fish, seems to be hunting for snails.
As to tank size; at least 20 gallons.
Personally I would suggest 40 gallons as a comfy sized tank.
Prize?
Wouldnt know.
Got mine for free!
Regards
Woland
Woland
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- Figure 8 Puffer
- Posts: 201
- Joined: Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:42 pm
- Gender: Female
- My Puffers: Pufferless since Nova passed; had 2 red T.miuris, 4 T.biocellatus for many years.
- Location (country): KY (USA)
- Location: (US) Kentucky
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- Former Staff Member
- Posts: 376
- Joined: Sat Jun 04, 2005 3:12 am
- My Puffers: 1 X Tetraodon nigroviridis, 1 X Monotrete palembangensis.
- Location (country): Norway
- Location: Oslo, NORWAY
Well, targetpuffers is a slippery rug, and the availiable information is more often than not based on educated guessing.
As RTR readily points out; when someone gets funding to do a proper scientific classification of the target group, we will certainly see changes.
This is my arguments based on availiable pictures and discussions with other members:
Body shape (especially head) is slightly more elongated in T. abei.
T. turgidus is bulkier (and probably grows larger).
T. abei has a multitude of coloured spots on its body.
The colour of these spots vary from yellow to orange.
Its "target" is as in other targetpuffers placed on its hind body, but tends to blend in with the other spots.
My specimens has a tiny speck of red inside the target.
Activity level is different.
While my T. turgidus is a nocturnal hunter, my T. abei's goes a hunting all of the time.
T. abei is a fairly active fish and reminds me (remotely) of SAP, GSP and F8 in behaviour.
Pictures in Dr. Ebert's book bewilders me a bit.
The variations in both T. turgidus and T. abei makes it more than difficult to conclude anything with certainty.
ID is so far more a result of concensus than actual scientific proof.
Here is some pictures which has been more or less agreed upon.
T. turgidus
T. abei
T. abei
T. abei
As RTR readily points out; when someone gets funding to do a proper scientific classification of the target group, we will certainly see changes.
This is my arguments based on availiable pictures and discussions with other members:
Body shape (especially head) is slightly more elongated in T. abei.
T. turgidus is bulkier (and probably grows larger).
T. abei has a multitude of coloured spots on its body.
The colour of these spots vary from yellow to orange.
Its "target" is as in other targetpuffers placed on its hind body, but tends to blend in with the other spots.
My specimens has a tiny speck of red inside the target.
Activity level is different.
While my T. turgidus is a nocturnal hunter, my T. abei's goes a hunting all of the time.
T. abei is a fairly active fish and reminds me (remotely) of SAP, GSP and F8 in behaviour.
Pictures in Dr. Ebert's book bewilders me a bit.
The variations in both T. turgidus and T. abei makes it more than difficult to conclude anything with certainty.
ID is so far more a result of concensus than actual scientific proof.
Here is some pictures which has been more or less agreed upon.
T. turgidus
T. abei
T. abei
T. abei
Regards
Woland
Woland
The LFS near my place is selling them for US$2. They're only about 2 inches though, so it's probably a baby size. but of course, I'm at the other end of the globe.
I'd rather be a puffer than a snail. Yes I would, if I could, I surely would...
Proud owner of: Beetroot: Fahaka, Hammie: Hairy Puffer, Fishball: Congo Puffer
RIP: Wasabi: Male irrubesco, Hamachi: Female irrubesco, Popcorn: SA puffer
Proud owner of: Beetroot: Fahaka, Hammie: Hairy Puffer, Fishball: Congo Puffer
RIP: Wasabi: Male irrubesco, Hamachi: Female irrubesco, Popcorn: SA puffer
Start buying them in bulk and help export them to the US There are not many puffs (freshwater ones) in the Easter US
<80 gal> 2 GSPs & a Ceylon!
<75 gal> 3 Figure 8s & 1 Butterlfy Goby
<75 gal> *Empty*
<55 gal> 3 Gymnothorax polyuranodon (FW eel)
<30 long> Pair of Lorteti's & Irrubesco's, 1 DP, Endlers Livebearers, Clown Pleco, Royal Pleco, 2 Bumblebee Cats
<20 long> 4 Flounders
<4 gal> 2 Sparkling Gouramis & 3 ottos heavily planted
~Tihsho~
<75 gal> 3 Figure 8s & 1 Butterlfy Goby
<75 gal> *Empty*
<55 gal> 3 Gymnothorax polyuranodon (FW eel)
<30 long> Pair of Lorteti's & Irrubesco's, 1 DP, Endlers Livebearers, Clown Pleco, Royal Pleco, 2 Bumblebee Cats
<20 long> 4 Flounders
<4 gal> 2 Sparkling Gouramis & 3 ottos heavily planted
~Tihsho~
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- Figure 8 Puffer
- Posts: 201
- Joined: Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:42 pm
- Gender: Female
- My Puffers: Pufferless since Nova passed; had 2 red T.miuris, 4 T.biocellatus for many years.
- Location (country): KY (USA)
- Location: (US) Kentucky
- Pufferpunk
- Queen Admin
- Posts: 32773
- Joined: Tue May 31, 2005 11:06 am
- Gender: Female
- My Puffers: Filbert, the 12" T lineatus
Punkster, the 4" red T miurus
Mongo, the 4" A modestus
2 T biocellatus
C valentini
C coranata
C papuan
Also kept:
lorteti
DPs
suvattii
burrfish
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- Figure 8 Puffer
- Posts: 201
- Joined: Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:42 pm
- Gender: Female
- My Puffers: Pufferless since Nova passed; had 2 red T.miuris, 4 T.biocellatus for many years.
- Location (country): KY (USA)
- Location: (US) Kentucky
This wasn't the good lfs I hope.Pufferpunk wrote:We had 3 targets at my LFS in a 15g. They all killed each other.
I didn't mean in the same tank. I met in adjacent tanks for comparison. I thought maybe Woland, Rocker, another member might have one of each type of "Target" Puffer. If so, he/she could more clearly see the differences between them. I can't seem to be able to keep a grasp of who has what type of Puffer anymore.