is barbatus now cambodgiensis?

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is barbatus now cambodgiensis?

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I know I haven't been around for a while and this may've slipped past me but has this fish been reclassified?

Also they are much more common now (at least in the UK) so are many people keeping them?

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Ok thanks for the prompt reply Corvus :)

Perhaps you can help clear up the differences between Leiurus and Cambodgiensis then?

Also, why can I not find any info on Leiurus in the PufferPedia? Does no one own a specimen or is it not imported?
I've studied many lists coming out of Thailand all claiming to have both species yet every "cambodgiensis" people have bought is always ID'd as Leiurus...
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One of the main differences of leiurus and cambodgiensis is the transition of the back to the belly. It is very sharply bordered in cambodgiensis.

Another feature of cambodgiensis are 3 bold black marks at the chin, which are absent or if present are very faint on leiurus (Information from Roberts ('98): Freshwater fugu or pufferfishes of the genus Tetraodon from the Mekong basin..., which is the paper in which barbatus (now cambodgiensis) was described).

cambodgiensis: http://www.thepufferforum.com/forum/ug. ... ysean2.jpg

leiurus:
http://www.thepufferforum.com/forum/dow ... &mode=view
further pics of this variable species (may actually be a "garbage bin taxon", where everything is classified that has no other name) on page 2 of the thread posted above.
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English George wrote:Also, why can I not find any info on Leiurus in the PufferPedia? Does no one own a specimen or is it not imported?
It is imported, not often, but it is... see the thread referred to above.
English George wrote:I've studied many lists coming out of Thailand all claiming to have both species yet every "cambodgiensis" people have bought is always ID'd as Leiurus...
Cambodgiensis is traded, too, see Sean's specimen e.g., this is a real one.
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Ok so its the transition from back to belly and the black marks on the chin. :)

Thanks, I'll continue my investigations!
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Great answers once again Corvus
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Dont think many pics of Leiurus have turned up on the forum or no one has been bothered to write a profile for them yet.

You still got Boo George?
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I've got a few Leiurus/Cambodgiensis at the moment. Will see if I can get some pics up.

Hi Hilly, yer I've still got Boo. She's doing very well and still a big fatty!
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Good to hear.
Sean posted some pics of Leiurus and Cambodgiensis
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