Very new to all of this...

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Very new to all of this...

Post by Wikkid Gamez » Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:08 pm

OK, so here it goes... My daughter came home with a "green spotted puffer"?? from walmart during the weekend while staying with a friend... I don't know the actual name and from what I have stumbled across on google it seems like there is more than one type that can be called that?? It is about an inch long, but has no tail or fins hardly. It looks as though they have been bitten off possibly? I have it in a floating breeding box I had setting inside a 29gal freshwater tetra aquarium. My first thought was to just take it back but to be honest I feel horrible for this poor little fella. I dont really think it will even survive long in its current state and I don't want to put it through the added stress of returning it. My daughter said she bought it because she felt sorry for it. It was the last one still alive in the tank at walmart according to her. It just stays in a little ball kinda in the corner of the box. It did perk up a min for some frozen bloodworms I have for the Betta's. After that it went back into a ball and just sits there watching. At least it looks like its watching... Idk... I found this site while trying to research it and want to ask if it would be possible to salvage the little guy? Or if I should just put it to sleep? ... I keep clove oil for situations with my bettas, they have a tendency to get bad tumors after a few years and I have had to put a couple down when they get to far gone over time. Im researching what I can on these puffers but I'm finding so much conflicting info that I finally just decided to try here... Where better than a forum where everyone is crazy about puffers? Nothing beats hands on experience. Unfortunately my expertize is with tetras of different types and Betta's. Any help or thoughts would be greatly appreciated and yes, I am ready for any criticism as well. I know how irresponsible it is to buy something without being prepared. That being said, in my opinion Walmart has no business selling any kind of live animals to start with... much less selling them to a 13yr old kid smh.

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Re: Very new to all of this...

Post by Pufferpunk » Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:36 pm

[welcome]
You are correct--Walmart has no business selling animals. So by purchasing one from them, its telling them that no matter how bad they treat them, they still are good sellers.
Here's some reading for you:
library/puffers-in-focus/an-introductio ... d-puffers/
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Re: Very new to all of this...

Post by Wikkid Gamez » Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:31 pm

I didn't purchase it, I wasn't even with my daughter as she was with a friend and her friends mother. I've tried explaining to her why I don't buy things from them. I don't even buy groceries from there. I got to sprouts and food pyramid for most of everything aside from milk and dairy. I go to braums for that. I've boycotted walmart since 2002. I worked there from 2001-2002 and they don't treat their employees any better than those fish. I've been reading around on here a lot today. . . I will read the link posted as well. Thank you.

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Re: Very new to all of this...

Post by Pufferpunk » Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:53 pm

I in no way was accusing you of buying this fish. Just stating the facts. I hope your daughter learns. Do you have another tank for this guy?
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...

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Re: Very new to all of this...

Post by Wikkid Gamez » Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:58 pm

I don't yet, I've been looking. We don't have a pet store in town so I order everything online. I can't afford a 55gal atm for it. Would something like this be to small to start off with for now?


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Re: Very new to all of this...

Post by Pufferpunk » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:21 am

IMO, yes, that would be too small for it's permanent home but would be good for a couple of years. Often, Petsmart has a $1/gallon sale. But if you don't have a Petsmart near you, look on Craigslist, Ebay, aquarium selling groups on Facebook (including local selling groups), Letgo or Offerup
How is he doing, health wise?
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Re: Very new to all of this...

Post by hadla » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:19 pm

If he is eating, get some prazipro to soak his food in to rid him of any parasites :)
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Re: Very new to all of this...

Post by Wikkid Gamez » Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:08 pm

Sorry, work is hectic.... He is moving around more, eating well I squished a couple of the baby snails in the tank and gave them to him... He wants out of the breeding box but I'm afraid to let him out. He has to work to move around and tetras, well my diamonds can be bad about picking at injured fish that are not other diamonds. I ordered some small freeze died krill until i can get some frozen, a box of the instand ocean salt stuff made for a 55gal tank and some of the dark caribsea cichlid substrate... I hope the cichlid substrate will be OK for now ... I looked on Craigslist...... And online... I ended up getting that tank for now, I couldn't find anything within an hour driving even close to the price. If it can work for a year that will give me time and I can turn it into something else later. The closest petsmart is almost 3hrs away. Most of everything I have came from sites like Dr's F & S.... My planted tank has a good snail and ghost shrimp supply ... Is there anything else I should get for now? I will order some prazipro... His tummy was a dark gray the first couple of days its turned almost white the past day r so which i think is good ... I've read so much this week my mind is a jumble i need to go back and re-read again tonight...he watches and comes to the surface when I lift the tank lid... I feel like I am forgetting something. I will post again when I remember. I haven't ordered any decor stuff yet. Not sure what I should learn towards. I am about tapped out till next friday on cash though I am hoping I have enough to get by for a week or two... Not sure what else I need. I forgot to get a hydrometer and a saltwater testing kit for when he starts transition. She everything gets here and I get it set up where do I go from there? Do I cycle the tank first? Or go ahead and add him and some salt and slowly cycle it? The stuff should be here in about a week.

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Re: Very new to all of this...

Post by Pufferpunk » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:25 am

You can instantly cycle that tank, by adding Tetra Safestart directly to the filter. Fish needs to be added soon after. Be sure you dechlorinate (we like Prime here) & match temp to his other tank.

After it has remained stable for 2 weeks (0 ammonia/nitrite, nitrate <20) you can start making it brackish:
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Re: Very new to all of this...

Post by Wikkid Gamez » Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:33 pm

OK, awesome ty.. Tetra aquasafe is what I usually use. Is the other better? I've heard of the safe start. Never used it myself. I will give it a try. His tail and fins are already growing back I've noticed I didn't realize they grew so fast. He is moving around a lot better I'm looking for my tank divider to section off a 1/4-1/3 of the tank for him for now so I can let him out of the brewing box. Ik its packed up with my old tank stuff somewhere in the storage building. With my luck I'll find it after the tank I ordered gets here lol. I keep the tetras at 76-78 I will put a heater in the new one when it gets here but it will need to be up and running for at least 24hrs possibly more to bring the water temp up to the same as the other tank. Its 30°F outside here.

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Re: Very new to all of this...

Post by eieio » Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:40 am

don't feed krill to a GSP, it can cause lockjaw!
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