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Hilly
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Carinotetraodon Salivator - Location (country): UK
- Location: Nottinghamshire, UK
Updates to the Pufferpedia
The Pufferpedia has been updated with the full current list of freshwater puffers that are now recognised as Monotrete instead of Tetraodon.
Hilly
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Troender
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- Location: Askim, Norway
Re: Updates to the Pufferpedia
When did they change name to Monotrete, and is there some scientific writings on this I can have a look at? I just want to update a Norwegian forum on this 
Inger Anne
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Hilly
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Tetraodon Sabahensis
Montrete Abei
Tetraodon Biocellatus
Carinotetraodon Salivator - Location (country): UK
- Location: Nottinghamshire, UK
Re: Updates to the Pufferpedia
Corvus listed these 2 references to me in a PM.
Fishes of Laos (2001)
The fishes of Danau Sentarum National Park (2005)
Fishes of Laos (2001)
The fishes of Danau Sentarum National Park (2005)
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Pufferpunk
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2 T biocellatus
C valentini
C coranata
C papuan
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lorteti
DPs
suvattii
burrfish
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Re: Updates to the Pufferpedia
Thanks!
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Corvus
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Re: Updates to the Pufferpedia
Copied/pasted from another discussion and PM:
Commonly used Monotretus and Monotreta are wrong spellings. Kottelat explained that Monotrete is a valid genus in:
Kottelat M. 2001. Nomenclatural status of names of tetraodontiform fishes based on Bibron’s unpublished work. Zoosyst 23: 605–618.
Several subsequent (and earlier) studies use this genus for most SE Asian puffers formerly known as the target group as well as the predatory puffers of this area. Some are:
Kottelat, M., 2000 Diagnosis of a new genus and 64 new species of fishes from Laos (Teleostei: Cyprinidae, Balitoridae, Bagridae, Syngnathidae, Chaudhuriidae and Tetraodontidae). J. South Asian Nat. Hist. 5(1):37-82.
This works describes M. turgidus for the first time in puffer history.
Kottelat, M., 2001 Fishes of Laos. WHT Publications Ltd., Colombo 5, Sri Lanka.
This work has:
M. abei
M. baileyi
M. cambodgiensis (M. cambodgiensis is considered the right name now, not barbatus.)
M. cochinchinensis
M. suvattii
M. turgidus
Kottelat, M. and E. Widjanarti, 2005 The fishes of Danau Sentarum National Park and the Kapuas Lakes area, Kalimantan Barat, Indonesia. Raffles Bull. Zool. Supplement (13):139-173.
This works has:
M. palembangensis
leiurus has not "officially" been transferred, but since all other puffers of the target group have been transferred, it is inevitably done as soon as the next scientific book/article with this species is published. You can add it to Monotrete, since it has all the necessary characters.
Commonly used Monotretus and Monotreta are wrong spellings. Kottelat explained that Monotrete is a valid genus in:
Kottelat M. 2001. Nomenclatural status of names of tetraodontiform fishes based on Bibron’s unpublished work. Zoosyst 23: 605–618.
Several subsequent (and earlier) studies use this genus for most SE Asian puffers formerly known as the target group as well as the predatory puffers of this area. Some are:
Kottelat, M., 2000 Diagnosis of a new genus and 64 new species of fishes from Laos (Teleostei: Cyprinidae, Balitoridae, Bagridae, Syngnathidae, Chaudhuriidae and Tetraodontidae). J. South Asian Nat. Hist. 5(1):37-82.
This works describes M. turgidus for the first time in puffer history.
Kottelat, M., 2001 Fishes of Laos. WHT Publications Ltd., Colombo 5, Sri Lanka.
This work has:
M. abei
M. baileyi
M. cambodgiensis (M. cambodgiensis is considered the right name now, not barbatus.)
M. cochinchinensis
M. suvattii
M. turgidus
Kottelat, M. and E. Widjanarti, 2005 The fishes of Danau Sentarum National Park and the Kapuas Lakes area, Kalimantan Barat, Indonesia. Raffles Bull. Zool. Supplement (13):139-173.
This works has:
M. palembangensis
leiurus has not "officially" been transferred, but since all other puffers of the target group have been transferred, it is inevitably done as soon as the next scientific book/article with this species is published. You can add it to Monotrete, since it has all the necessary characters.
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PuffTheMagicFishy
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Re: Updates to the Pufferpedia
We're lucky to have you around to decipher all this for us, Corvus! I get so confused by taxonomic debates. I just went to a seminar the other day on Red Crossbills, and apparently the bird that's listed as a single species is actually 8 different species that look almost exactly the same. I give up! 
I get so confused by taxonomic debates. I just went to a seminar the other day on Red Crossbills, and apparently the bird that's listed as a single species is actually 8 different species that look almost exactly the same. I give up! Tanks:
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75-gal West African Lungfish + snails
Other pets: Pacific parrotlet, Italian Greyhound, lots of plants
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Troender
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- Posts: 1842
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- My Puffers: 1x GSP (Bolla), 1x m. something. Bought as a leiurus, maybe a turgidus (Tiger), 1x c. irrubesco (Tott(a) aka Houdini) 1x c. salivator (Jack the Ripper), 1x m. cochinchinensis (Hufflepuff - R.I.P.), 2x c. lorteti (Tommy and Tigern = Calvin and Hubbes), 1x m. suvatti (Koseklumpen), 1x m. palembangensis (Dragonfly), 2x t. biocellatus (Koken and Fiken).
- Location: Askim, Norway
Re: Updates to the Pufferpedia
Thanks a lot! 
Inger Anne
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Just think how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! -George Carlin
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Corvus
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Re: Updates to the Pufferpedia
No problem. The work was done by Kottelat, I just happend to read it.
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