Help with Figure 8 pufferfish

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1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.

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One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.

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Help with Figure 8 pufferfish

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Hello. I have recently acquired 1 figure 8 puffer. He is not eating anything and has a weird pink spot on the nose.
Could somebody please help.

I AM A BEGINNER TO PUFFERFISH.

Tank size - 15gallons
Tankmates - 2 guppies

This tank is very new (2 weeks) I do water changes every week 20%.

The tank is still cycling (I made an impulse purchase) but I use prime to detox ammonia and nitrites (tell me if I am doing anything wrong)

ammonia - very low, I test at pet stores, so no accurate numbers. < 0.5ppm
nitrite - rather high, but, again, I am detoxing with prime. 2 - 3ppm
nitrate - I'm not sure, but Petco told me It is fine.
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Re: Help with Figure 8 pufferfish

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Use Tetra Safestart (I've found it at Walmart) to get that tank cycled. ANY amount of ammonia/nitrite is toxic! Do an 80% water change & then add it directly to your filter. Get yourself an API test kit, you're going to need it throughout the time you keep fish. Rehome the guppies. In a week, start doing 50% WC/week. Prime is good!
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...

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Re: Help with Figure 8 pufferfish

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Hello. I have already used tetra safestart (the entire bottle). Could you explain why I would need to rehome guppies? This is my only tank, first one at that.
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Re: Help with Figure 8 pufferfish

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Good news: The puffer ate a bit of clam in garlic extract today!
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C valentini
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Re: Help with Figure 8 pufferfish

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Yay! Garlic usually does the trick.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...

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Re: Help with Figure 8 pufferfish

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I'm still a little bit worried about the pink spot on his nose, I also noticed 2 black dots under his chin.
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2 T biocellatus
C valentini
C coranata
C papuan
Also kept:
lorteti
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suvattii
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Re: Help with Figure 8 pufferfish

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Pic?
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...

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Re: Help with Figure 8 pufferfish

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Hello. The puffer is now eating, but spitting all the food. ALL the food.

how do you attach a pic? I need to take one from my camera
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Punkster, the 4" red T miurus
Mongo, the 4" A modestus
2 T biocellatus
C valentini
C coranata
C papuan
Also kept:
lorteti
DPs
suvattii
burrfish
T niphobles
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Re: Help with Figure 8 pufferfish

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You need to upload it to a site like Imageshack.
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Re: Help with Figure 8 pufferfish

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O YAY the puffer ate a lot of raw shrimp, and his belly is round.
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Re: Help with Figure 8 pufferfish

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can you give me your email? I can send the pics via email. A lot more convenient for me
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My Puffers: Filbert, the 12" T lineatus
Punkster, the 4" red T miurus
Mongo, the 4" A modestus
2 T biocellatus
C valentini
C coranata
C papuan
Also kept:
lorteti
DPs
suvattii
burrfish
T niphobles
Location (country): USA, Greenville, SC
Location: Chicago
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Re: Help with Figure 8 pufferfish

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Click on the contact by my name.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...

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Re: Help with Figure 8 pufferfish

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Sent you the pic. sorry for late response
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Joined: Tue May 31, 2005 11:06 am
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My Puffers: Filbert, the 12" T lineatus
Punkster, the 4" red T miurus
Mongo, the 4" A modestus
2 T biocellatus
C valentini
C coranata
C papuan
Also kept:
lorteti
DPs
suvattii
burrfish
T niphobles
Location (country): USA, Greenville, SC
Location: Chicago
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Re: Help with Figure 8 pufferfish

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Could you explain why I would need to rehome guppies?
The bacteria in your tank has been created to support the 2 guppies. By adding the puffer, you now need bacteria to support that fish, which there isn't enough of. If you rehome the guppies, the bacteria can support the puffer. Also, 15g is the bare minimum for a single puffer--nothing more.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...

"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Joined: Tue May 31, 2005 11:06 am
Gender: Female
My Puffers: Filbert, the 12" T lineatus
Punkster, the 4" red T miurus
Mongo, the 4" A modestus
2 T biocellatus
C valentini
C coranata
C papuan
Also kept:
lorteti
DPs
suvattii
burrfish
T niphobles
Location (country): USA, Greenville, SC
Location: Chicago
Contact:

Re: Help with Figure 8 pufferfish

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You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...

"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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