Palembang/humpback puffer has large white spots
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Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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- Puffer Fry
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Palembang/humpback puffer has large white spots
This morning my Palembang puffer Dale was normal angry and in his hideyhole and at some point today he developed a few sizeable white spots (looks like fungus)
Water was changed about 1.5 weeks ago, all other fish seem ok including the loaches.
I have stress coated the tank and am doing a fungus treatment at the moment (both at half dose) but I fear this will get worse.
Any info/ideas are appreciated. TIA
Below is a link giving an idea of his current condition
https://youtu.be/IbaRn0ItJVA
Tank setup:
175 gallons
Nitrates 20ppm
GH 180 ppm (this is the norm in this tank)
PH 7-7.5
Tankmates:
Sevrum
Parrotfish
Cichlids
Cory catfish
Rope fish
Tiretrack eel
Clown loach
Pleco
Recently added 2 sevrum to the tank (+/- 2 weeks) no other fish are showing signs of fungi
Water was changed about 1.5 weeks ago, all other fish seem ok including the loaches.
I have stress coated the tank and am doing a fungus treatment at the moment (both at half dose) but I fear this will get worse.
Any info/ideas are appreciated. TIA
Below is a link giving an idea of his current condition
https://youtu.be/IbaRn0ItJVA
Tank setup:
175 gallons
Nitrates 20ppm
GH 180 ppm (this is the norm in this tank)
PH 7-7.5
Tankmates:
Sevrum
Parrotfish
Cichlids
Cory catfish
Rope fish
Tiretrack eel
Clown loach
Pleco
Recently added 2 sevrum to the tank (+/- 2 weeks) no other fish are showing signs of fungi
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Re: Palembang/humpback puffer has large white spots
Can you set up a QT for him, so you don't have to treat the entire tank? What meds are you using now? I'd go full dose, add 1 tbsp salt/10g, Melafix & Pimafix.
I am shocked he hasn't hurt any of your other fish!
I am shocked he hasn't hurt any of your other fish!
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Re: Palembang/humpback puffer has large white spots
Do not think I can set up a QT tank unfortunately. I plan on picking up pimafix and melafix today.
Last night I dosed the tank with stress coat and the jungle fungus clear (it’s what I had on hand).
He definitely doesn’t seem to be acting himself, as of now he is hanging out in the open and in the corner of the tank
There’s also a false leaf in the tank that’s his BFF
Last night I dosed the tank with stress coat and the jungle fungus clear (it’s what I had on hand).
He definitely doesn’t seem to be acting himself, as of now he is hanging out in the open and in the corner of the tank
There’s also a false leaf in the tank that’s his BFF
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Punkster, the 4" red T miurus
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2 T biocellatus
C valentini
C coranata
C papuan
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lorteti
DPs
suvattii
burrfish
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Re: Palembang/humpback puffer has large white spots
I would go with something stronger like Kanaplex but best to post about it here, these guys are the best! https://www.facebook.com/groups/220024505125640/
Also, have a bottle of Tetra Safestart on hand to replace good nitrifying bacteria killed off by the meds.
Also, have a bottle of Tetra Safestart on hand to replace good nitrifying bacteria killed off by the meds.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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- Puffer Fry
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Re: Palembang/humpback puffer has large white spots
Will do. Thank you
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- Puffer Fry
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Re: Palembang/humpback puffer has large white spots
Went to the local fish store today and purchased Kanaplex and Metroplex. Did a filter cleaning prior to dosing, fingers crossed he gets better soon
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C valentini
C coranata
C papuan
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lorteti
DPs
suvattii
burrfish
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Re: Palembang/humpback puffer has large white spots
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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- Puffer Fry
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Re: Palembang/humpback puffer has large white spots
Yes thank you for directing me there! I had actually posted in one of the puffer group I belong to and no one had responded. Carl seems to have a great deal of experience with these guys so fingers crossed Dale starts getting better
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C valentini
C coranata
C papuan
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lorteti
DPs
suvattii
burrfish
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Re: Palembang/humpback puffer has large white spots
Please be sure to read the article I just linked you to above.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Re: Palembang/humpback puffer has large white spots
So as of now, Dale is doing fantastic! Do you think I should does the tank again just in case? Thank you again!
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C valentini
C coranata
C papuan
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lorteti
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Re: Palembang/humpback puffer has large white spots
Follow the directions on the bottle. NO MORE FEEDERS!
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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- Puffer Fry
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Re: Palembang/humpback puffer has large white spots
I wish I could say no more feeders however 3/4 of the tank eat live so that’s impossible.
I did read your article, however I feel it’s better for the long term that these guys get the live feedings. I’ll be sure to get them from a reputable source from now on. Until recently we didn’t have a consistent supplier. So hopefully that will help a bit.
I did read your article, however I feel it’s better for the long term that these guys get the live feedings. I’ll be sure to get them from a reputable source from now on. Until recently we didn’t have a consistent supplier. So hopefully that will help a bit.
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Punkster, the 4" red T miurus
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2 T biocellatus
C valentini
C coranata
C papuan
Also kept:
lorteti
DPs
suvattii
burrfish
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Re: Palembang/humpback puffer has large white spots
There is absolutely no reason to feed your fish live foods! Pieces of shrimp, earthworms, large pellets are a staple in my house.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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- Puffer Fry
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Re: Palembang/humpback puffer has large white spots
yea without live food Dale starts taking bites out of his tankmates. If I could do pellets only I would but it’s really not an option. I’ll keep a new package of kanaplex and metaplex in hand until our feeder tank is going strong.
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2 T biocellatus
C valentini
C coranata
C papuan
Also kept:
lorteti
DPs
suvattii
burrfish
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Re: Palembang/humpback puffer has large white spots
I highly advise you to house this fish separately then. In that case, then you wouldn't have to feed feeders to any of your fish, problem solved! They are an extremely fatty, high thiamine, UNHEALTHY diet for all your fish.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"