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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.

1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.

2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.

3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)

4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.

5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.

We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.

While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.

Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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james2019
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My GSP (Russel) doesn't seem to be acting right and I'm in a state of panic. I only have the salinity, which is 0.09. It is a 29 gallon tank, and he has his long time tank mate (Murdoc). I feed them everyday at 5 PM, blood worms and pond snails. I mixed tap water with marine salt on Sunday and on Monday added half saltwater and half freshwater mix from a local pet store reading at 0.08 for salinity. They have just been moved in to their new tank from a 10 gallon on Monday. It's been set up for about 2 days now. I had been worried about Murdoc's stress but he finally calmed down today. And Russel seemed to have been fine during the process until now. Russel has always had a distinctive color to his belly. It usually a dark color. Not very dark but is noticeable since Murdoc's belly is white. But I have just noticed that Russel is now laying on the bottom of the tank, breathing heavier with a very almost black belly. I am very worried because this is not normal to me to see. Please help!!! :cry:
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Please answer ALL the Qs above in red, so we can better access the situation.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...

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Amonia strip read between ideal and safe so between 0 to 0.25. Nitrate at "okay" between 20 to 40. Nitrite at "stress" around the 3.0 mark. and PH reads at what looks like "ideal" around 8.4. and salinity is about 0.08.
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C valentini
C coranata
C papuan
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lorteti
DPs
suvattii
burrfish
T niphobles
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NO ammonia is acceptable & the same with nitrite. Your tank is not cycled. How did you attempt to cycle it? Get some Tetra Safestart, do a 90% WC & add it to your filter.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...

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james2019 wrote: Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:04 pm Amonia strip read between ideal and safe so between 0 to 0.25. Nitrate at "okay" between 20 to 40. Nitrite at "stress" around the 3.0 mark. and PH reads at what looks like "ideal" around 8.4. and salinity is about 0.08.
strips are not accurate.
your water parameters may be much worse that you think.
get a liquid test kit.
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