Schoutedeni not doing well.

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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.

1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.

2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.

3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)

4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.

5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.

We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.

While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.

Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: Schoutedeni not doing well.

Post by lilacamy931 » Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:13 pm

So testing API kit again tonight (and having hubby mixing this time) gained the bright read nirtrate reading again of 40-80ppm (can't tell between the reds easily) both out of tap and tank. I had some test strips as well which I know aren't accurate but good for a comparison and readings came out much less on both but around 25ppm baseline for both.

Just really curious as during cycle had the lower end, now at end of cycle both are high.

@gkai - tank is planted, I am planning on adding more both for that and break up lines of sight. I have been doing very frequent water changes since puffs arrived just to ensure tip top shape.

@pufferpunk - good point. I'm going to take both tank and tap water to trusted LFS store to test their kits.

If it is more up to the 40ppm mark out of the tap what on earth do you do for the fishes health?

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Re: Schoutedeni not doing well.

Post by lilacamy931 » Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:15 pm

Hubby checked local water reports and should be between 25ppm-30ppm.

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Re: Schoutedeni not doing well.

Post by Pufferpunk » Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:45 am

Are you going to report the 80ppm?
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...

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Re: Schoutedeni not doing well.

Post by gkai » Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:21 pm

You should store a little bit of this water and report it...is confirmed, your distributor is responsible for providing water well outside admissible value...

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Re: Schoutedeni not doing well.

Post by lilacamy931 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:17 pm

Sorry not replied sooner our boiler blew up over the weekend so having to deal with this immediate issue. I've ordered a different nitrate kit to see if tests same out of the tap as had issues with the nitrate kit in this API one. If still same of course will report

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Re: Schoutedeni not doing well.

Post by lilacamy931 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:11 pm

Husband speaking to water quality board as we speak.

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