Sick T. Miurus- congo puffer

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Sick T. Miurus- congo puffer

Post by Molu » Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:58 pm

Hi everyone!
my Miurus seems sick, he have not eaten correctly for a week, in the beginning he tryed to crab a shrimp but could not do it/want, and hi just gived up, and now he just swims away... the color is good, his swimming around maybe a little more than usual... I saw him trying to scratch himselt to the sand.
On the skin there is some 2-3 white dots, but Im not sure its Ich. For any case I treat the tank with a eSHa-200 and eSHa -exit- are you using a normal doses or half of it? But my doupt is, that he have internal parasites. Here we dont have a eSHa ndx, I did order it from eBay, but it will take time to get here. I have Sera Tremazol- praziquantel, liquid . I can`t soaked the food in to it, because hi is not eating. I can make a bath or treat all tank. Can I use full dose ? if I will do baths- how long can I keep him there? have anyone some experience with that med??
water is fine
temp. 25.5
Ph 6.9 - 7.0
Kh 3
n02, no3, nh4 all good.
Thanks.

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Re: Sick T. Miurus- congo puffer

Post by Pufferpunk » Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:41 pm

Ich meds can be quite dangerous to a puffer. I suggest a large water change & filter with carbon.
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Re: Sick T. Miurus- congo puffer

Post by Molu » Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:12 am

Hi, Thanks.
Tank is 160l, fully planted,some snails, adding only plant fertilaiser every other week
Its only for Miurus and I did add about 10 days ago,some guppeis to make him eat better-they all alive.
feeding every other day, with raw shrips, bloodworms, adding once per week vitimin solution
water changes every week 30-50%
watertests couple of times in week,
Started tank in april 2017, worked 1 month empty, then there lived 4 angelfishes until I waited my Puffer, puffer arrived in august.
I have changed nothing, the same rutin the same stuff

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Re: Sick T. Miurus- congo puffer

Post by Molu » Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:16 am

Last water change was yestarday, 50%

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Re: Sick T. Miurus- congo puffer

Post by Pufferpunk » Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:26 am

I would go ahead & use the heat/salt method (are you familiar? It's stickied here), in case it is indeed ich.
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Re: Sick T. Miurus- congo puffer

Post by Molu » Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:24 am

Yes, I did read about that. But if I still need to devorm him also- what about Praziquantel?

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Re: Sick T. Miurus- congo puffer

Post by Pufferpunk » Fri Oct 27, 2017 5:09 pm

Prazi will work but always soak the food with that or garlic. FW fish do not drink water.
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