Fahaka Stopped eating
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Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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kass
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Re: Fahaka Stopped eating
Snapped a few pictures, right after a feeding. They are not the greatest quality. I was just wondering if there are any signs of IPs in these pictures? He also just made a poop which showed no signs of IPs, all solid.
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Re: Fahaka Stopped eating
Although a little thin, which is to be expected from the hunger strike, he looks OK. Just keep feeding daily & soak foods in vitamins.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Re: Fahaka Stopped eating
Yes, he is a little thin width wise. He is fed 1-3 times a day. Small meals. Soaked in vitachem and sometimes garlic. Thanks
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Re: Fahaka Stopped eating
He is now thinning out between meals... I cannot find jungle labs parasite clear. Not even on jungle labs website.
I am going to try levamisole and/ or worker plus (flubendazole). I can get them both from the life.
I am going to try levamisole and/ or worker plus (flubendazole). I can get them both from the life.
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Re: Fahaka Stopped eating
It does look like parasites. Consider injecting his food to get a better dose in.
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Re: Fahaka Stopped eating
Picked up some Wormer Plus. I'll try to look for a syringe to inject his food.
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Re: Fahaka Stopped eating
For 12 days in a row he only ate food soaked in Wormer Plus. He is still thin every morning. Not sickly thin, but pretty thin. His behaviour is normal. But he has still not grown at all. His activity is normal. I am now going to give him API general cure, again.
Is it possible that his IPs are not curable? Has anyone experienced this before, a fish they cannot rid of parasites? Or maybe he is immune to all the meds I have tried on him?
Is it possible that his IPs are not curable? Has anyone experienced this before, a fish they cannot rid of parasites? Or maybe he is immune to all the meds I have tried on him?
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Re: Fahaka Stopped eating
Different IPs respond to different meds. You are right in trying something else. What exactly are you feeding him? Are you also soaking his foods in vitamins?
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: Fahaka Stopped eating
He has been eating mainly snails and market shrimp,(becAuse that's what he seems to prefer) but also scallops, mussels, clams, bloodworms and earthworms. Soaked in garlic and vitachem.
The meds I have tried so far are seachem metroplex, API general cure (metronidazole and praziquantel), Prazipro and Wormer Plus (flubendazole).
I have had no luck finding jungle parasite clear, locally or on line anywhere. I may try and find a different Wormer med...or buy some levamisole...
The meds I have tried so far are seachem metroplex, API general cure (metronidazole and praziquantel), Prazipro and Wormer Plus (flubendazole).
I have had no luck finding jungle parasite clear, locally or on line anywhere. I may try and find a different Wormer med...or buy some levamisole...
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Re: Fahaka Stopped eating
So he's eating well, now?
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Re: Fahaka Stopped eating
Yes. He has been eating well for a while now. But remains thin between meals and has not grown noticeably, or at all, for a couple months.
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Re: Fahaka Stopped eating
Update; He still has a good apetite. However he is withering away. He cannot eat much at all, as his stomach is very small. I have been soaking his food in levimasole for the past week but still has white stringy poops. He is still quite active.
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Re: Fahaka Stopped eating
Yesterday I put Houdini out of his misery. He had wasted away to almost nothing and when he attempted to move he would swim up a bit and the float down to the substrate head first...
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Re: Fahaka Stopped eating
Oh gosh... I'm so sorry. 
When I saw you posted here, I thought it was going to be good news. You must be heartbroken.
When I saw you posted here, I thought it was going to be good news. You must be heartbroken.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Re: Fahaka Stopped eating
He was struggling for a while, so it was not much of a suprise.