Help please - unsure about my F8 mouth

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Help please - unsure about my F8 mouth

Post by Camillarh » Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:14 pm

Hey,

I have 3 F8 puffers, two are doing great (one likes to eat most of the food!) however, I have one who's mouth is more open than the others and I'm worried because I haven't seen him eat in a few days- he swims around a little less tha. The other two but otherwise is healthy.

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Re: Help please - unsure about my F8 mouth

Post by Pufferpunk » Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:58 pm

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Re: Help please - unsure about my F8 mouth

Post by Pufferpunk » Fri Dec 04, 2015 12:43 am

His teeth don't look overgrown, are they? What diet have they been eating?
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Re: Help please - unsure about my F8 mouth

Post by scpion » Fri Dec 04, 2015 1:27 am

Is he/she in a fish bowl?
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Re: Help please - unsure about my F8 mouth

Post by Camillarh » Fri Dec 04, 2015 3:52 am

I'm afraid he died in the night :(
He hadn't eaten in a while, I feed than frozen bloodworm and krill Pacifica, cockle in she'll, and sometimes live bloodworm and stuff. Snails are in the tank too and sometimes o get live shrimp but hey don't last long (not sure if it's the puffers or the brackish water than gets them in the end.

I don't know how to see if the teeth are overgrown- I did try and look but couldn't see teeth, to prevent this from happening again is there other food that I can offer? They love bloodworms but I don't think they're crunchy enough? They're not keen on the krill Pacifica much I always end up hoovering a fair bit afterwards

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Re: Help please - unsure about my F8 mouth

Post by Camillarh » Fri Dec 04, 2015 3:53 am

scpion wrote:Is he/she in a fish bowl?

He's in a fish tank - it's a Cleair Apple shaped one :)

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Re: Help please - unsure about my F8 mouth

Post by bigpuff » Fri Dec 04, 2015 3:05 pm

What sized tank and was it brackish or freshwater?

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Re: Help please - unsure about my F8 mouth

Post by Camillarh » Fri Dec 04, 2015 4:45 pm

bigpuff wrote:What sized tank and was it brackish or freshwater?
It's 30 litres and yes it's brackish - monitored the other two today and they're eating and seem pretty happy - I hope they weren't bullying him and he didn't get chance to eat?

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Re: Help please - unsure about my F8 mouth

Post by bertie 83 » Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:33 pm

30 litres? Did you mean gallon? If litres you will need a much bigger tank in the very near future to keep your pair happy and healthy
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Re: Help please - unsure about my F8 mouth

Post by bigpuff » Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:46 pm

+1 to the above. If it's 30 litres then we can't even guess at what was wrong because the underlying issue was most likely that it was in too small of a tank. The rule for F8's is 15 gallons (57 litres) for the first one and 10 gallons (38 litres) for each additional one.

What kind of salt are you using, aquarium or marine salt? What's the salinity at?

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Re: Help please - unsure about my F8 mouth

Post by bigpuff » Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:54 pm

Also did he have white spots on him (ick) or is that just bubbles in the photo?

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Re: Help please - unsure about my F8 mouth

Post by Pufferpunk » Fri Dec 04, 2015 11:32 pm

You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...

"The solution to pollution is dilution!"

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