GSP refuse to eat and more

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1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.

2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.

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One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.

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GSP refuse to eat and more

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Hello. It's the first time I have problem with them. Both puffers refuse to eat, often stays in filter stream, itches on the walls and become way less rounded than before. Anyway, the most of the time their bellies are still white. They seem to breath heavier than usual and sometimes with one ?gill? F8 seems to be ok and feels fine.
1) Salinity is 1.01 by hydrometer. I've used Red Sea salt when this happened with puffers and now I'm switching to Sera because the lack of other salt brands.
2) 200l, 2 GSP's and 1 F8
3) Feeding 1 time per two days with mussels, prawn and krill. Water change was 20% once per week but when the problem appeared I switched to two 20% per week. No products other than salt were used in tank.
4) No changes
5) Only Juwel Bioflow 3.0 internal filter. Waiting for red mangrove germs to arrive to make a phytofilter like in my fw tank.
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Ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, pH?
Is it possible the pH of this different brand of salt is different than the other?
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...

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Pufferpunk wrote:Ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, pH?
Is it possible the pH of this different brand of salt is different than the other?
Possible fore sure. I don't have sw tests still to measure parameters. Ammonia, nitrite, nitrate should be possible removed with water changes, but how long it will take...
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Your tank is not SW.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...

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Thank you, it was probably PH drop after salt brand change. Now all puffers still slim but eating good.
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F8 can't live long term with gsps... It is brackish and gsps are salt :)
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