Sick Figure Puffer

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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.

1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.

2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.

3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)

4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.

5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.

We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.

While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.

Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: Sick Figure Puffer

Post by Zeroboard » Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:18 pm

Its called caribsea super naturals. It says ph neutral (will not increase carbonate hardness). I was worried about those factors that's why I chose this type.

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Re: Sick Figure Puffer

Post by Pufferpunk » Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:34 pm

You're good to go then!
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...

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Re: Sick Figure Puffer

Post by Zeroboard » Sat Feb 21, 2015 2:41 am

There are thousands of references and suggestions for tank cycling, but I wanted to clear this before doing anything drastic. I planner on leaving the media and carbon from my 20 gallon to seed my 10 gallon but many individuals say (especially when going from large to small) that with a healthy colonized media, the tank is cycled as soon as you drop the used media in the new tank? Even if this is the case, I cannot purchase any fish for another 4 or more days and would test parameters before dropping anything in there. Are people mistaken thinking this?

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Re: Sick Figure Puffer

Post by Zeroboard » Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:50 pm

Bump* Does anyone know about this cycling information?

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C valentini
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C papuan
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lorteti
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burrfish
T niphobles
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Re: Sick Figure Puffer

Post by Pufferpunk » Mon Feb 23, 2015 6:17 pm

You have to feed any bacteria in that tank with ammonia, if there are no fish to produce it. Add the same amount as you would to cycle an uncycled tank.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...

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Re: Sick Figure Puffer

Post by Zeroboard » Sat Feb 28, 2015 3:31 pm

I wanted to post an update. The tank redo has been cycling for well over a week now (pics are attached), lots of greenery in here (some helferi, vallisneria, and miscro swords), and I created a cool upward slope of sand into the top right corner using some lava rocks, think they'll love it.
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Mongo, the 4" A modestus
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C valentini
C coranata
C papuan
Also kept:
lorteti
DPs
suvattii
burrfish
T niphobles
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Re: Sick Figure Puffer

Post by Pufferpunk » Sat Feb 28, 2015 5:24 pm

What's the SG in there? I'm afraid most of those plants will "melt" at the proper SG for a F8.
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Re: Sick Figure Puffer

Post by Zeroboard » Sat Feb 28, 2015 6:00 pm

It's going to be for a few dwarfs =D

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My Puffers: Filbert, the 12" T lineatus
Punkster, the 4" red T miurus
Mongo, the 4" A modestus
2 T biocellatus
C valentini
C coranata
C papuan
Also kept:
lorteti
DPs
suvattii
burrfish
T niphobles
Location (country): USA, Greenville, SC
Location: Chicago
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Re: Sick Figure Puffer

Post by Pufferpunk » Sat Feb 28, 2015 6:08 pm

Ahhh... I was just looking at the subject line here. Best to start a new thread on this in the FW puffer forum.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...

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