melafix and primafix
Forum rules
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Ich can be a problem and if it takes over the puff and he gets overly stressed he has a possiblity of dying. Maming im not sure about. Slowing him is a maybe, it depends on the fish.toronto55 wrote:I ahve the earlier post which I said I would get the specifics for the water and a pic for you to look a bit closer at (once off work). Im still at work took the doubble twelve shift so havent been home in 29 going on 24 hours but will get that posted. My bro said puff is still alive so i feel a bit better and also said the grey film is mostly gone or all gone but a very greyish discolouration continues to be on the puff. So from the info I have (believing he does have ich) will the ich kill or seriously mame or slow him. and the greyish film/discolouration; temp 78, new tank change today 9am, ph 12, nitrates and niatrates unsure till i get home. Any new thoughts yet?
<80 gal> 2 GSPs & a Ceylon!
<75 gal> 3 Figure 8s & 1 Butterlfy Goby
<75 gal> *Empty*
<55 gal> 3 Gymnothorax polyuranodon (FW eel)
<30 long> Pair of Lorteti's & Irrubesco's, 1 DP, Endlers Livebearers, Clown Pleco, Royal Pleco, 2 Bumblebee Cats
<20 long> 4 Flounders
<4 gal> 2 Sparkling Gouramis & 3 ottos heavily planted
~Tihsho~
<75 gal> 3 Figure 8s & 1 Butterlfy Goby
<75 gal> *Empty*
<55 gal> 3 Gymnothorax polyuranodon (FW eel)
<30 long> Pair of Lorteti's & Irrubesco's, 1 DP, Endlers Livebearers, Clown Pleco, Royal Pleco, 2 Bumblebee Cats
<20 long> 4 Flounders
<4 gal> 2 Sparkling Gouramis & 3 ottos heavily planted
~Tihsho~
I found them both to be OK but limited. It is not the silver bullet.
These companies like Aquarium Pharmaceuticals are bringing non antibiotic products on the market mainly because of legislation in some areas. The veterinarians or the legislative people in the area are trying to take the antibiotics off the shelf of Pet Shops so that you have to go to the vets for it just like the tapeworm meds for your dog or cat.
Personally, I stick with Maroxy for any fungal infections (non antibiotic also). Then antibiotics at last resort.
These companies like Aquarium Pharmaceuticals are bringing non antibiotic products on the market mainly because of legislation in some areas. The veterinarians or the legislative people in the area are trying to take the antibiotics off the shelf of Pet Shops so that you have to go to the vets for it just like the tapeworm meds for your dog or cat.
Personally, I stick with Maroxy for any fungal infections (non antibiotic also). Then antibiotics at last resort.
TREKEN
Live long and prosper
Live long and prosper
-
Pufferpunk
- Queen Admin
- Posts: 32773
- Joined: Tue May 31, 2005 11:06 am
- Gender: Female
- My Puffers: Filbert, the 12" T lineatus
Punkster, the 4" red T miurus
Mongo, the 4" A modestus
2 T biocellatus
C valentini
C coranata
C papuan
Also kept:
lorteti
DPs
suvattii
burrfish
T niphobles - Location (country): USA, Greenville, SC
- Location: Chicago
- Contact:
-
onebadpuffer
- Former Staff Member
- Posts: 76
- Joined: Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:34 am
- Gender: Male
- Location (country): United States
- Location: Texas
- Contact:
Re: melafix and primafix
I added to my tank killed my gs in seconds he qas ruff tho he actually got worse after just one dose so I dont trust it . I lost my fish yeaterday and was gutted I got him from dodgy store he was I'll already but did perk up a lot was eating then his fins got worse assume water issue. I blame myself I got him as fresh water community fish how wrong was I. I tried my best but it wasnt good enough I know now at his demise that I would love a other but boy would I make sure ot was a healthy fish and make sure the tank is right
mins
mins
toronto55 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2005 10:45 am What are melafix and prima fix specifically designed to cure? I've seen post after post that promote them as great alixers for the fishes ailments, but I don't know which one is better for which diseases. Can someone post a link that expalins or give me the short and low. Thanks
P.S. this site really doeskick buttocks for the members knowledge of puffers and general topic info. Thanks again from a new puffer owner.
-
Pufferpunk
- Queen Admin
- Posts: 32773
- Joined: Tue May 31, 2005 11:06 am
- Gender: Female
- My Puffers: Filbert, the 12" T lineatus
Punkster, the 4" red T miurus
Mongo, the 4" A modestus
2 T biocellatus
C valentini
C coranata
C papuan
Also kept:
lorteti
DPs
suvattii
burrfish
T niphobles - Location (country): USA, Greenville, SC
- Location: Chicago
- Contact:
Re: melafix and primafix
Sounds like he was on his way out anyway. If used correctly, I wouldn't blame these products.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
Re: melafix and primafix
I am going to get another I time but I still blame myself poor chap buried in garden now. Are any puffa more hardy than others and are any true fresh that will like tank mates . Looking at 30 gal set up for puffa or poss ciclid
-
Pufferpunk
- Queen Admin
- Posts: 32773
- Joined: Tue May 31, 2005 11:06 am
- Gender: Female
- My Puffers: Filbert, the 12" T lineatus
Punkster, the 4" red T miurus
Mongo, the 4" A modestus
2 T biocellatus
C valentini
C coranata
C papuan
Also kept:
lorteti
DPs
suvattii
burrfish
T niphobles - Location (country): USA, Greenville, SC
- Location: Chicago
- Contact:
Re: melafix and primafix
Stick with cichlids.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"