Mappa and Starry with Ich

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1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.

2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.

3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)

4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.

5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.

We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.

While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.

Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Mappa and Starry with Ich

Post by Robd97 » Tue Jul 24, 2012 11:22 pm

Ph 8.4, ammonia 0, nitrite 0 and nitrate below 30. I have a 3 inch undlated trigger, 3.5 inch picasso trigger, 4.5 inch stellatus puffer, 4 inch clown trigger and a 3.5 inch mappa puffer. The triggers are healthy they eat everything and anything, I introduced the puffers roughly 2.5 months ago with out quarentining them first stupidly. Both puffers have been off and on with ich, they don't have ips because I treated there food with meds for that early on. I tried cupramine or whatever it's called for 4 days with no luck about 2 weeks ago. I don't want to keep medicating these guys, but I will not accept losing them. Any advice puffer punk? It's a 125 gal tank.

I would also like to add that the stellatus eats like a monster and the mappa eats well enough, but neither will accept anything other than raw shrimp and scallops.

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Re: Mappa and Starry with Ich

Post by Lukedt95 » Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:54 pm

I'm not sure whether you'd have to quarantine the affected fish, but RTR's salt method is great, I used it to succesfully cure my puffer of ich recently.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=28113

Anyway good luck with your puffers bro.
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Re: Mappa and Starry with Ich

Post by Robd97 » Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:16 am

Lukedt95 wrote:I'm not sure whether you'd have to quarantine the affected fish, but RTR's salt method is great, I used it to succesfully cure my puffer of ich recently.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=28113

Anyway good luck with your puffers bro.
Will the salt method work on salt water fish?

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Re: Mappa and Starry with Ich

Post by Pufferpunk » Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:07 am

LOL, not at all. Hypo is the way to go. If you don't have a QT large enough for all those fish, then remove all the LR/sand to a vat with a heater & flow & hypo in the DT. You're gonna need a huge tub to make prepared water in, as you'll be doing HUGE daily WC for the tank.
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Re: Mappa and Starry with Ich

Post by Robd97 » Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:25 am

Pufferpunk wrote:LOL, not at all. Hypo is the way to go. If you don't have a QT large enough for all those fish, then remove all the LR/sand to a vat with a heater & flow & hypo in the DT. You're gonna need a huge tub to make prepared water in, as you'll be doing HUGE daily WC for the tank.

Thanks, cheers

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Re: Mappa and Starry with Ich

Post by FADE2BLACK_1973 » Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:23 am

Just want to add. A good UV will help abunch, imo... Killing the free swimming stages of the ich. Oh, and boosting the immune systems will help out as well.
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