gsp ip disaster
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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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i treated the tank and atleast he doesnt seep to be any worse he swam in a wierd cirkle just now and his brathing seems to have a normal pace now. he seems to fluxuate betwen lying on the bottom and floating on the top, he seems to have part of a bloodworm sticking out of his gill is it a parasite? he hasnt eaten bloodworms for a few days what is it? should i put him in a breeder box for closer observation and to keep an eye on him? hes not swiming anyways.
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bertie 83
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Don't do anything that will stress it more
It's amazing how easy maintenance is. If done regularly and thoroughly
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He didnt make it. I woke up and he was on the bottom with his tail curledd, it looked like he was sleepin but he wqsnt beathing and didnt move when i poked him. 
Right now im determining on going back to tropical or trying another puffer.
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bertie 83
- Moderator
- Posts: 5298
- Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2011 4:28 pm
- Gender: Male
- My Puffers: lineatus R.I.P, South American puffer. Valentini puffer, porcupine puffer.
Non puffer
Danios, Tetras, Redtail Rasporas,
Harlequins, CAE's, Yoyo
Loaches, Clown loaches ,Eels, various shrimp, tangs,wrasses, damsels, chromis - Location (country): Brighton, England
- Location: brighton , england
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Don't give up. You did what you could. Sorry you lost him, he was just too far gone for you to save
It's amazing how easy maintenance is. If done regularly and thoroughly
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Sorry to hear. Keep reading all you can before you make a decision.
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Pufferpunk
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Sorry for your loss...
Next puffer you pick out should be nice & fat & NOT from Walmart!
Next puffer you pick out should be nice & fat & NOT from Walmart!
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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jus85411
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^+1 not from walmart. keep up your research, you found this site which will benefit you ten fold when you decide on your next addition
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uggg my whole house smells like garlic how much food should i add to the tank to keep it cycled? Would a 75% get rid of most of the meds iin my water, its a real pain to do wc's for my tank i have to do it gallon by galon sience i dont have a big bucket!!!!!! Can i put my media back in my filter right away or do i have to wait untill i do the wc. also im not sure i should get another pufer i think im way over my head im just a begining aquariust and i was freaking out about the change to sw with my gsp sience the only fish ive kept sucesfully were my beta, my goldfish (in a pond where they belong ), and swordtails wich i gave away opon geting my gsp. Im not entierly sure what 2 do i was thinking of a chiclid tank (did i spell that right?). Is there an easyer puffer to take care of that wil fit in my 30g? (no sw please!) Are dp's easy, fig 8's ? can i keep other fish with these two (i like the look of more than 1 fish in my tank.)
how much food should i add to the tank to keep it cycled? Would a 75% get rid of most of the meds iin my water, its a real pain to do wc's for my tank i have to do it gallon by galon sience i dont have a big bucket!!!!!! Can i put my media back in my filter right away or do i have to wait untill i do the wc. also im not sure i should get another pufer i think im way over my head im just a begining aquariust and i was freaking out about the change to sw with my gsp sience the only fish ive kept sucesfully were my beta, my goldfish (in a pond where they belong ), and swordtails wich i gave away opon geting my gsp. Im not entierly sure what 2 do i was thinking of a chiclid tank (did i spell that right?). Is there an easyer puffer to take care of that wil fit in my 30g? (no sw please!) Are dp's easy, fig 8's ? can i keep other fish with these two (i like the look of more than 1 fish in my tank.)Re: gsp ip disaster
Lots of FW puffers out there.
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i want to go fw because i like the idea of lots of plants, also how agresive are dp's? i was thinking of 1 dp, clown loaches, upside down cats, and a brislenose plec. would the dp be ok in there would i get "mising fish syndrome" ?
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could i also add some cherry shrimp ?
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They'll be fine.gspgirl wrote:i want to go fw because i like the idea of lots of plants, also how agresive are dp's? i was thinking of 1 dp, clown loaches, upside down cats, and a brislenose plec. would the dp be ok in there would i get "mising fish syndrome" ?
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ok thanks, wich fish should i add first, in my brief experience i find it best to start with the least aggresive and work my way up so put the dp in last but what order should i add the other fish, does it matter? also how many of the loaches and upside down cats can i have brfore im overstocked, i heard that upside down cats like to school so 5 of those mabe and 3 loaches , 1 brislenose,1 dp and how many shrimp should i get ?
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It doesn't matter.gspgirl wrote:ok thanks, wich fish should i add first, in my brief experience i find it best to start with the least aggresive and work my way up so put the dp in last but what order should i add the other fish, does it matter? also how many of the loaches and upside down cats can i have brfore im overstocked, i heard that upside down cats like to school so 5 of those mabe and 3 loaches , 1 brislenose,1 dp and how many shrimp should i get ?
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Pufferpunk
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Punkster, the 4" red T miurus
Mongo, the 4" A modestus
2 T biocellatus
C valentini
C coranata
C papuan
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lorteti
DPs
suvattii
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Clown loaches get a foot long.
DPs will pick on most any fish, no matter how large.
DPs will pick on most any fish, no matter how large.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"