GSP is still sick, fighting an uphill battle here.
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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: GSP is still sick, fighting an uphill battle here.
You might also be able to find some through your local aquarium club or craigslist.
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Re: GSP is still sick, fighting an uphill battle here.
will it take raw shrimp? Mine used to go ga-ga for that stuff.
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Re: GSP is still sick, fighting an uphill battle here.
How about ghost shrimp, gut-loaded with medicated worms?
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Re: GSP is still sick, fighting an uphill battle here.
Would the shrimp live long enough to eat a significant amount of meds before the meds killed them?
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Re: GSP is still sick, fighting an uphill battle here.
I do think they will.
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Re: GSP is still sick, fighting an uphill battle here.
Extremely true, I bought 3 small raw shrimp from the grocery store - took one out an tossed the others in the freezer for later. FIRST, cut a tiny slice of raw shrimp without the meds see if he eats it. If not, you'll need to somehow force the medication since he won't eat.J-P wrote:will it take raw shrimp? Mine used to go ga-ga for that stuff.
If he does eat it with no problem, soak some slices of shimp with the water from the tank and add a couple drops of the medication. Make sure it's diluted enough so the fish can't tell, but not too much where the meds aren't effective.
I tried this method and it worked perfectly for me. Good luck.
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Re: GSP is still sick, fighting an uphill battle here.
well the gloves are off. I just got back from buying half pound of raw black tiger shrimp from the grocery store, I pulled the shell off one and I'm soaking it in some medicated tank water right now. I'm half tempted to cook these up and eat them myself, If he's too picky to eat this, I don't know what I'll do.
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Re: GSP is still sick, fighting an uphill battle here.
just keep trying. As PP mentioned you can gut load a live shrimp, or inject the solution into a live earth worm. There are many options out there.LongGrain wrote:If he's too picky to eat this, I don't know what I'll do.
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Re: GSP is still sick, fighting an uphill battle here.
on another note, I got my powerhead today.
Bad idea to turn it on, my fish just got blasted in a circle around the tank.
Bad idea to turn it on, my fish just got blasted in a circle around the tank.
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Re: GSP is still sick, fighting an uphill battle here.
Now when I feed him after this shrimp is done soaking, should i plop the whole thing in the tank and let him have at it until he's full? or should i drop tiny pieces in there for him.
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Re: GSP is still sick, fighting an uphill battle here.
drop it in piece by piece. Clean up / take out any leftovers.
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Re: GSP is still sick, fighting an uphill battle here.
he nipped at it for a little while. I can't be sure he actually ate any.
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Re: GSP is still sick, fighting an uphill battle here.
He probably ate a bit. I would say try the earthworms, most puffers can't resist them. If you were to inject the worm he'd get quite a bit of medicine and some food all at once, which is a really good thing.
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Re: GSP is still sick, fighting an uphill battle here.
He probably too weak to chew/bite anyway. I would cut the medicated shrimp into pieces small enough for him suck it in at one shot. U could use a long skewer to push the food a little so it would "dance" in front of him. Just dun scare him with it.. Works for me.
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Re: GSP is still sick, fighting an uphill battle here.
You could also try grating the shrimp with a hand grater, like you would with cheese. Soak the shredded shrimp with the med and then feed real small amounts.
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