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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.

1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.

2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.

3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)

4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.

5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.

We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.

While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.

Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: worried.

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he passed away this morning:/ im just going to let my tank cycle for like a month. i also noticed i have these little bug looking things like baby crayfish with wings???? what fish should i put inside to cycle it? im gonns wait a month or so to purchase a new one. i feel like crap cuz i was the demise of this little fella:(((
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Re: worried.

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Most likely damsel fly nymphs. Probably came with the plants.
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Ok. How can i get rid of them? And is there a puffer u guys can recommend to me? Or should i just try a miurus? I always had cichlid tanks i was thinking about some shell dwellers in my 20. What do u guys think??
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dustin808 wrote:Ok. How can i get rid of them? And is there a puffer u guys can recommend to me? Or should i just try a miurus? I always had cichlid tanks i was thinking about some shell dwellers in my 20. What do u guys think??
Which ever fish you decide just make sure you know as much or more than the guy in the shop about it. Reserch the fish you can get then see which would suit you.
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Re: worried.

Post by sevenyearnight »

Sorry :(
Don't put any fish in the tank, keep it empty for 4 weeks, no fish hosts, but feed the tank like there is fish inside. This will keep the bacteria alive and allow any disease to die off.
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Re: worried.

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im cycling it now, i through some common corys in there too eat those bug things. but other then that it seems to be going good. my plan is to get a decent size multifasciatus breeder tank, ill eventually get a bigger tank for a puffer. then ill have clean feeder multifasciatus for him.
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Re: worried.

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Cycling a tank is something you do before you put fish in, it's the process of building up your beneficial bacteria to break down waste products into less harmful nitrates. A cycled tank will read ammonia, nitrite, at 0, and nitrate preferably under 20. This should be done without fish, as the bacteria only need an ammonia source. Are you saying your tank was uncycled?

Since you just had a fish die, it would be wise to leave the tank without fish in it because any parasites etc. will die off without a fish host. By keeping fish in, you will perpetuate the possible disease (s)
What do you mean when you say you're cycling it?
Those "worms" are present when fish have been overfeed, unless it's something else less benign.
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Re: worried.

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ooo well ive always used some kind of fish to cycle my tank. i did a 100percent water change when the puffer died
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Re: worried.

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The bacteria doesn't live in the water, it's attached to surfaces. Doing a large water change doesn't un-cycle a tank. http://theaquariumwiki.com/Aquarium_Mic ... rification

http://badmanstropicalfish.com/articles/article58.html

Cycling a tank with fish is an outdated method, it subjects the fish to inhospitable conditions unnecessarily.
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