Porc puffer breathing very hard!
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One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Porc puffer breathing very hard!
I just got a new porc puffer about 3 days ago because i sold my other one who was getting to big for my 75, the new one is about 1.5 to 2 inches so very small, last night he was out and i fed him a mix of brine shrimp, mysis, and squid and he loved it and ive never seen him more happy, this morning i woke up and could not find the puffer anywhere in my tank, i moved a rock and there he was just laying there, i know i scared him but ever since he has been breathing very hard, i checked all of my parameters, ammonia 0 nitrite 0 nitrate under .04, calcium 400 ph 8.2, i added in an airstone but i dont think thats my problem? do you think i just scared him and he'll come around or do you think hes sick? also salinity is 1.024
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Re: Porc puffer breathing very hard!
Any chance a bit of the food had fouled? They can get a sour stomach from that, though they usually get over it in a day or two.
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Re: Porc puffer breathing very hard!
i guess there would be a chance but all my other fish are perfectly fine and none of them look like they are breathing hard, i was also thinking maybe he could just be sleeping? does anyone know if they generally breath a little bit harder when they are resting?
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Re: Porc puffer breathing very hard!
Puffers tend to stuff themselves quite well with food, so "off" food may seem to effect them more. My puffers usually seem to breath about the same when they rest, a bit more gently if they've been resting a long time.
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Re: Porc puffer breathing very hard!
I hope you got a bigger tank for this one.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: Porc puffer breathing very hard!
ok thanks, should have a new tank within a year or so! should i be treating him with anything or wait to see how it plays out?
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Pufferpunk
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Re: Porc puffer breathing very hard!
Is he still breathing hard? How much did you actually feed him?
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: Porc puffer breathing very hard!
yep hes still breathing hard, it was a half of cube brine, half a cube mysis and a less then 1/4 of wat a cube is from rods reef food all mixed together between a couple clowns a tang and the puffer, the puffer probably ate about 35% of it. hes been laying in his cave all day, moves around a little bit
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Pufferpunk
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C valentini
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lorteti
DPs
suvattii
burrfish
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Re: Porc puffer breathing very hard!
Time to check parameters & do a WC.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
Re: Porc puffer breathing very hard!
checked all parameters, ammonia 0 nitrite 0 nitrate under .05 ph 8.3 salinity 1.024, 10 gallon water change right when i started getting worried before the post.
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Re: Porc puffer breathing very hard!
how old is the tank? is there a chance a mini cycle has occurred. Those nitrates are super low IMO. unless ur doing/adding something to remove them?
could just be new tank syndrome?? maybe a tad panicked in his new home
could just be new tank syndrome?? maybe a tad panicked in his new home
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