Mbu Puffer not well Pic Posted

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Post by crazedpuffer »

What size tank was he in before you got him?!?! He should be much bigger by now/
I'd do 50% water changes daily, and offer him earthworms untill he starts to perk up again
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are earthworms ok from the garden? do i just need to wash them?
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Just rinse them off and they should be good.
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As long as there are no pesticides or fertilizers in that garden.
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same advice for Snails from the garden too, as long as you and your neighbours are pesticide free then you can use them. Catch them, which should be easy enough lol and then keep them in a tub and feed on good quality veg for a few days. This will purge them of any bad plant matter they may have eaten and gut load themwith goodness for you puff. I found that garlic soaked food will work but whn Mbu are il they will not eat so don't worry about trying to feed them. Best food to try is half a mussel and if they eat then offer a little more. With the gut being empty you don't want to overload it after the fish has been poorly.

I think my first suggestion that these spots were pimples may still stand nad it is a direct link to water quality IMO. Big water changes are need for at least 2 weeks and as the puffer grows build a bigger tank for the Mbu on their own as soon as you can.

Are yuo sure of the puffers age? It looks very young indeed to me
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Thanks for all the help and advice!

Yoda is now coming back to health and starting to feed again. It seems he has a massive appetite so hopefully he will be ok. I am still doing large water changes just to be sure but the fungus is going and he harly has any pimples on him now.

Yes I am sure of his age. I inhearited him from my brother in law and he must have had him at least 1 1/2- 2 years and I have had him around 6 months or so. what size do you think he should be? should i feed him more?
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White pimples could also be some parasites on their way out. I've experienced it on corydoras and have seen it also on discuses (which wasn't mine, luckily).
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Likely he is stunted from your brothers tank size and water change schedual. Feeding is usually never a stunting factor in captive fish, though waste buildup from overfeeding is. Pimples on Mbu are usually a sign off too much wastes in the water, make sure your nitrate test is reading accurately - do you shake the crap out of the second bottle every time you use it? It needs 30 seconds of hard shaking to work properly, or it reports greatly less nitrates than are present.
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Hi again

The white spots didnt look like the ones in the pictures that were put up so thats good They are all nearly gone so i think he is going to be ok. He just needs to be fed up a bit now as he has gone skinny from not eating but he has a good appetite now!

Does anyone know of small cockles that you can get for fish as Yoda cant break open the normal size ones. I dont think he is big enough to break them. are there any other foods that are good for there teeth bust small?

Thanks

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you can just open the regular ones and leave the meat inside and they should scrape their teeth on the shell.
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