Listless puffer

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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.

1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.

2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.

3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)

4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.

5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.

We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.

While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.

Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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puffingtontheprince
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Listless puffer

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1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.

pH = 7.4
Ammonia = 0.25-0.5 ppm
Nitrite = 0 ppm
Nitrate = 0-5 ppm
Salinity = 1.01
Temp = 79 degrees F


2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.

2 GSP, 20 gallon. Purchased a 60 gallon on craigslist today and will move the fish to this one when I have my area setup.

3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)

Just bought the fish 5 days ago. One day before adding the puffer fish I put some waste on the bottom of my betta fishes bowl and my betta fishes hammock in the puffer fish tank in hopes that I would add some beneficial bacteria. Feeding twice a day. Fed the fish bloodworms, frozen clam, freeze dried shrimp, live brine shrimp. Added instant ocean marine salt from 1.003-1.01 yesterday. Tank is uncycled (doing fish in cycling). I've used prime water conditioner to temporarily neutralize ammonia and nitrite even if there is low levels of it. I created a bag of crushed coral using cheese cloth and rubber band in order to slowly increase the pH of the tank.


4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.

When I added the salt yesterday I added quite a bit after reading a forum post saying that the best conditions for the fish to be in even while juvenille is marine salinity level. Therefore, I increased the spec. grav. from 1.003-1.01. One puffer fish which is smaller than the other is doing fine and is engaged when I come near the tank. The other puffer is not doing well and this is the one I am concerned about. The puffer is listless and is not eating. He was eating small amounts when I purchased him, but now he is eating nothing. He also has been suctioned onto the filter nozzle twice and when I pushed him off of it he acts like nothing happened nor is it concerned with anything around it. When the other puffer comes nearby the fish does slowly back away from it. Usually a fish darts away. The colors of the puffer are a white belly with green and black spots, but they are dulled. I am hoping that I did not add too much salt and shock the fish to the point where it will die, but it was not acting too energetic when I bought it anyways. He also has a strange ring just below his lower jaw which is a perfect gray/pink circle. I am wondering if this fish is suffering from a parasitic infection. I plan on doing a 50% water change this sunday.

5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.

Aquarium set up for 1 week and I am doing fish in cycling.
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Re: Listless puffer

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Please do NOT do a fish in cycling! Ammonia burns skin & gills & can cause permanent damage to them. I would get that SG closer to FW for now, do a 90% WC & add Tetra Safestart to the filter. Use Prime to dechlorinate.

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