Ich or not?

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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.

1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.

2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.

3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)

4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.

5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.

We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.

While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.

Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: Ich or not?

Post by Matts » Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:32 am

I'm again seeing some ich, it's on the smaller, more skinny puffer of the 2. Could it be the stress of the daily water changes? Although I did so with equal temperature water then the tank. I've added the devider today that should also help in case of stress.

I've upped the temp again. But I'm thinking of using some ich medication this time, it seems I need a more aggressive approach than the salt.

The meds suggest to dose 1 time, a 80%waterchange the next day and then repeat after a few days if necessary.
I'm thinking of doing half a dose to start.

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Re: Ich or not?

Post by Pufferpunk » Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:25 pm

Which med?
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...

"The solution to pollution is dilution!"

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Re: Ich or not?

Post by Matts » Sat Jan 25, 2020 7:51 am

Sera protazol, the shop had positive experience with this medicine and SAP's.
You dose the medication as suggested and do an 80% waterchange after 24 hours unless the water gets cloudy then you need to do the wc immediately. Repeat after 4-5 days if necessary.

I did the full dose 2 days ago, so the wc was yesterday. They seem to tolerate it well, both are eating and can't see any visible negative effects so far.

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Re: Ich or not?

Post by Matts » Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:05 pm

It seems to be a pretty persistent strain, one of them still has about 3 little dots now 3 days after I added the meds.
I guess I’ll need to do a second treatment tomorrow. :(

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Re: Ich or not?

Post by Matts » Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:09 pm

After the second treatment there was no more visible ich, so tomorrow I’m moving them out of the quarantine tank. I’m hoping that the added stability of the bigger tank and the less cramped conditions will prevent the ich form resurfacing.

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