Realy aggressive young dwarf puffer

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Realy aggressive young dwarf puffer

Post by quax-aqua » Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:37 pm

Hello,

I came to you because I have 5 Dwarf puffer and I found out a new little one, probably 2 months old.
But, since is not effraid anymore by the adults he is realy, realy aggressive with them ...
He swim a bit everywhere in the tank and when he came close to one he just jump on on bite, but sometimes he bites and he didn't let the other one go (he keeps bitting him, he holds him).
I've seen males doing little fight by just give each other like headbutt, but this time with the little one it's like, realy more violent !

The 2 dominated males got little marks on them now, cause of the repeated bites.

I would like to know if it's normal, and the little one will became more cool by growing up or if I should do something special.
I'm a bit stressed because I'm afraid that he would basically kill them by the repeated bites or with a bigger misplaced one ...

I would realy, realy appreciat if you can help me !!

Sorry for my english, it's not my native speach.

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Re: Realy aggressive young dwarf puffer

Post by Pufferpunk » Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:17 pm

How large is your tank? Is it heavily decorated?
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Re: Realy aggressive young dwarf puffer

Post by quax-aqua » Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:05 am

It's a 120 L, so a bit more than 31 gallon.
It's planted, so yes I guess it got many place for them to hide.

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Re: Realy aggressive young dwarf puffer

Post by quax-aqua » Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:32 am

And also I give them food every day, frozen artemias and vase worms.
He eats every day with the adults so I don't think it can be because he's starvind or something like this.

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Re: Realy aggressive young dwarf puffer

Post by Pufferpunk » Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:01 pm

Most puffers don't play well with others. For the most part, DPs can be friendly towards each other but only in good balance of M-F.
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Re: Realy aggressive young dwarf puffer

Post by quax-aqua » Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:55 pm

Ok, that's what I've taught.
I only have 1 female and 4 males, because I've got them from a rescue so I didn't have much choice.

So there is nothing I can realy do about his behaviour ?
I can only hope that he will became a bit more friendly with the time ?

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Re: Realy aggressive young dwarf puffer

Post by Pufferpunk » Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:07 pm

Well then, there you go... It should be 1 male to 3 females or you will definitely have male on male aggression--sometimes fighting to the death. You're either going to have to set up a separate tank or find a home for the aggressor.
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Re: Realy aggressive young dwarf puffer

Post by quax-aqua » Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:12 pm

Such a shame, before the little was here everything was perfectly well, he's the one who makes the trouble ...

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Re: Realy aggressive young dwarf puffer

Post by quax-aqua » Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:18 pm

Do you think if I can find more females it would help to decrease his aggressivity ?
Even if we can't say for the moment if it's a male or a female ?

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Re: Realy aggressive young dwarf puffer

Post by Pufferpunk » Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:04 am

Your tank is already fully stocked. Can't you rehome the 1 puff?
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Re: Realy aggressive young dwarf puffer

Post by quax-aqua » Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:49 pm

I can't make another tank for him and where I leave it's quite hard to find people who can be able to offer him a good home (I'm in a small city).
I've watch him when I've give them food yesterday and I think he's less aggressive than he was, he keeps being like before only towards 1 male.
I've read that it could be because even at a young age the puffer fight the others ones to find their place in the hierarchy in the groupe, maybe it's this ? And when he will calm down when he will have find "his place" ?

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Re: Realy aggressive young dwarf puffer

Post by Pufferpunk » Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:58 pm

It's also possible you have 2 males. They will fight to the death.
library/puffers-in-focus/sexing-carinot ... rf-puffer/
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Re: Realy aggressive young dwarf puffer

Post by quax-aqua » Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:45 pm

I got a new tank this afternoon !
It's a 8 gallon, I'm gonna plante it and in something like a month the little puffer will be in his own home.
Do you think he's gonna be ok like this ?

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2 T biocellatus
C valentini
C coranata
C papuan
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lorteti
DPs
suvattii
burrfish
T niphobles
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Re: Realy aggressive young dwarf puffer

Post by Pufferpunk » Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:48 pm

Perfect!
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...

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Re: Realy aggressive young dwarf puffer

Post by quax-aqua » Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:05 pm

Ok, I'm reassured he and the others are gonna be ok !
But, the couple in the tank keep having spawning behavior, if there is another fry I really will not be able to have a 3rd tank for them.

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