Cycling With Bio-Spira

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Re: Cycling With Bio-Spira

Post by RTR » Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:14 am

FYI: Dr Tim's One and only is NOT, repeat not the original BioSpira. Dr. Tim stated this himself.
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Re: Cycling With Bio-Spira

Post by Pufferpunk » Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:21 am

It's not???
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...

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Re: Cycling With Bio-Spira

Post by Terrance » Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:35 am

RTR wrote:FYI: Dr Tim's One and only is NOT, repeat not the original BioSpira. Dr. Tim stated this himself.
I don't understand what you're saying.
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Re: Cycling With Bio-Spira

Post by Pufferpunk » Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:27 am

Although created by Dr Tim, it is not his "origional' formula.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...

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Re: Cycling With Bio-Spira

Post by RTR » Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:34 am

When he left the company for which he developed BioSpira, they retained the patents (even though in his name - part of his contract and fairly standard).

So, when he started his new company - his own - he had to develop new products. If he used the old formulations and named strains, he would have been guilty of patent infringement, even though it was his own work.

So the One and Only strains are different, but do the same job. Dr Tim is perhaps the bet-equipped person to recognize useful stains and ID them and isolate and develop practical handling techniques for them. He was one of the modern break-through in recognizing the real bugs that self-propagate in captivity indefinitely and the techniques for providing viable shipping snd storage techniques for handling them.

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Re: Cycling With Bio-Spira

Post by Terrance » Sat Jul 16, 2011 2:36 am

RTR wrote:So the One and Only strains are different, but do the same job.

I had no idea what you meant until I looked up "One and Only" on google. I found his product and it sounds great, but I can't find it in any LFS in my area.

I will try to find cheaper priced Tetra Safestart online, then force major LFS chain stores to match the price because they "do the same job" :)

Good info!
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Re: Cycling With Bio-Spira

Post by BryanG » Tue Sep 27, 2011 12:24 am

Instant Ocean markets a Bio-Spira that is the same stuff although it does not need to be refrigerated.

http://www.fosterandsmithaquatics.com/p ... =920560366
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Re: Cycling With Bio-Spira

Post by Kadabra » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:06 pm

I tried this product, I tried bio everything, I tried ammonia, I tried fish, NOTHING WORKED.

3 months later, NOTHING had happened

I took the filter media from my old tank at home (200 miles away hence trying everything else first) and the tank cycled in 2 hours.
I cant emphasise how much I wish someone had just insisted I do this before.

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