Taking out the air stone now. One less airpump means a quieter bedroom for me. I am thinking about taking one of the 425's back tomorrow to upgrade to a 600. I can't really aim these 425's too well. I have read that ideal flow is 20-40x turnover. I think this was said for general rule of thumb for marine. When it comes to puffers(not the strongest swimmers), would 1025 gph be too much on a 29g tank?Pufferpunk wrote:Airstone in BW will make salt spray everywhere! In my 40 years in this hobby, I've never owned an airstone.
GSP Circling Magfloat
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Re: GSP Circling Magfloat
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Re: GSP Circling Magfloat
Sounds like a lot.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Re: GSP Circling Magfloat
I do have a collection of airstones paired with battery-operated air pumps which I have used to add oxygen to bio-media transferred from canisters during long power outages and kept during such outages in shallow glass dishes. That keeps the bacteria alike until the power is back on. Long ago I did use some airstones in FW tanks, but gave all such uses up long ago. Salt/mineral spray and coverglass etching does occur in FW tanks also, and I prefer not to have to replace cover-glasses any more often than absolutely necessary.
With very soft acid water, cover-glasses actually etch as rapidly as from hard or BW tanks. That is especially true if you use sphagnum moss or sphagnum peat filtration to provide tannin-rich water for Discus or or Cardinal or Neon Tetras. That tannin-rich water will etch cover glasses almost as quickly as full marine conditions.
Extreme water conditions are hard on cover-glasses at both ends of the scale. But salt spray is messier.
With very soft acid water, cover-glasses actually etch as rapidly as from hard or BW tanks. That is especially true if you use sphagnum moss or sphagnum peat filtration to provide tannin-rich water for Discus or or Cardinal or Neon Tetras. That tannin-rich water will etch cover glasses almost as quickly as full marine conditions.
Extreme water conditions are hard on cover-glasses at both ends of the scale. But salt spray is messier.
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On water flow: Never forget that rated flow versus functional real (i.e., measured) flow are two very different measures.
You want to have no, repeat no, dead spots in a tank. You do want areas with lower flow (cave or other refuge/shelter from dense plants in FW) and areas with higher, stronger flow for simple swimming exercise.
You want to have no, repeat no, dead spots in a tank. You do want areas with lower flow (cave or other refuge/shelter from dense plants in FW) and areas with higher, stronger flow for simple swimming exercise.
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Re: GSP Circling Magfloat
The two korlalia 450's seem to be doing the trick. I was able to put 90 on the end my my ehiem spary bar that the outlet dumps right over one the the poweheads. This also efectivley reduces the jets on the spray bar which were scaring the gsp. I also have the new rockwork 90% done I just need to grab another stick of epoxy to piece rubble in the gaps. I can post up a video tonight. Again thank you guys for all of your advice.
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Re: GSP Circling Magfloat
I keep all my spray bars vertical in the tanks.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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So aparently one of the rocks was not firmly on the bottom of the tank. My violet goby got underneath and almost brought the second archway down. Ive removed the rocks that were about to tumble. The new video is going to be delayed until I can take the goby and the gsp out, reseat this rock and expoy the second archway. The verticle spray bar is a great idea.
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Re: GSP Circling Magfloat
I tuck it behind the intake tube & hold it there with the suction cup from the bigger one.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Re: GSP Circling Magfloat
About a week back I added a koralia 600. The 600 is aimed across the front and the two 450's are aimed across the back pointing to the filter inlet. The little guy still loves doing loop de loops but not as frequent and spends much of his day swimming at the powerheads. Thank you guys for all of your advice.
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lorteti
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Re: GSP Circling Magfloat
I think this is the longest thread on TPF of all time!
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Re: GSP Circling Magfloat
He jumped out of the tank last night. . . I hadn't replaced the plastic part to the hood after changing from a HOB to a Canister.
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Re: GSP Circling Magfloat
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