Big White Spot

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Big White Spot

Postby Terrance on Thu May 17, 2012 11:01 pm

My wife was vacuuming 2 days ago. She unplugged my Turg's heater to plug in the vacuum. Today I noticed my Turgidus not coming out for food. I looked closer and found a big white spot on his side. The temp was below 50F. My wife forgot to plug the heater back after vacuuming. I took him out of his tank and put him in a QT tank (shown below). The QT water was the same temp of his normal tank, and now I'm raising the temp with a heater. I didn't want to put him from a cold 50F to a ~76F.

His tank has been good and stable for many months until now. The cold temp caused him stress and weakened his immune system. I'm thinking about treating him for bacterial infection. Good plan? Any better ideas?

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Re: Big White Spot

Postby Pufferpunk on Thu May 17, 2012 11:03 pm

Why did you move him? I'd put him back & just add Melafix for now. Get a Jager heater, they turn off when the water level gets low.
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Re: Big White Spot

Postby Nuclear_Glitter on Thu May 17, 2012 11:04 pm

Any tank mates in the hospital tank, like a pleco?

I would say melafix and primafix would be a great start.
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Re: Big White Spot

Postby Terrance on Thu May 17, 2012 11:25 pm

No tankmates at all. I will get some meds tomorrow because most LFS is closed at 8pm.

I thought his bacterial germs might get caught onto his decor and other stuff in his regular tank. I don't know much about diseases, but basic readings tells me to QT. Once I saw the white spot, I didn't jump online and did research. I got him out of there and into a hospital. Better to put him back now?
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Re: Big White Spot

Postby Pufferpunk on Thu May 17, 2012 11:38 pm

You need to learn more about QT. Put him back.
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Re: Big White Spot

Postby Terrance on Sat May 19, 2012 1:30 am

Alright so he is back in his normal tank and I started the Melafix treatment tonight. I hope everything will look right by next weekend.
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Re: Big White Spot

Postby Nuclear_Glitter on Sat May 19, 2012 1:33 am

Terrance wrote:Alright so he is back in his normal tank and I started the Melafix treatment tonight. I hope everything will look right by next weekend.


Does it seem fungal at all or anything? Does it seem to be spreading or anything like that?
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Re: Big White Spot

Postby Terrance on Sat May 19, 2012 1:35 am

Its not spreading. Its just a white spot. Its not fuzzy or growing any kind of layer.
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Re: Big White Spot

Postby Nuclear_Glitter on Sat May 19, 2012 1:58 am

Well that's a good sign at least! =]
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Re: Big White Spot

Postby Rocker on Sun May 20, 2012 8:55 am

Looks like a typical heater burn to me.
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Re: Big White Spot

Postby Nuclear_Glitter on Sun May 20, 2012 9:00 pm

Rocker wrote:Looks like a typical heater burn to me.


Except for his heater was unplugged when this happened.
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Re: Big White Spot

Postby Terrance on Sun May 27, 2012 4:24 pm

The white spot if smaller, but still present. No other signs on his body. He is eating well and still comes up to me when I come up to him. Been dosing Melafix as directed on the bottle since 5/18/12. Just did my weekly 50-60% water change for all my tanks today.
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Re: Big White Spot

Postby El Scorpio on Sun May 27, 2012 9:50 pm

Kind of looks like a skin ulcer to me, there is a bacterial skin infection that can cause something a lot like it, I've seen GSP's with it. Melafix seems to be working though, keep it up.
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Re: Big White Spot

Postby Rocker on Fri Jun 01, 2012 5:15 am

Still say its a heater burn. Acquired before the heater was turned off.
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Re: Big White Spot

Postby bertie 83 on Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:28 pm

Or the heater hadn't cooled, I have been burnt more than once in my time
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