Ich-type white spots
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Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
- Hufferpuffer
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Ich-type white spots
My Fahaka has white spots on her back that I thought were Ich. However, when I took a photo in to my local MaIdenhead Aquatics they thought the spots were too large and were some other infection. I have been given Interpet Anti Crustacean Parasite treatment (active ingredient Sodium Chloride 12,835mg/100ml).
Ammonia 0, Nitrite 0, pH 8.0, Nitrate 40. He's 4 years old and has always lived in this area with our chalky, high Nitrate water. He is in a 400l aquarium and is about 7 inches long.
He moved to us about 2 months ago. After a shaky week or so he settled in and has been eating well, is active and responsive and enjoying his new home.
He gets very stressed with water changes so we monitor the levels and do a 30% change every 2-3 weeks. We feed cockles and mussles daily or every other day and feeder shrimp every 1-2 weeks. He also gets occasional snails. I add Ferropol plant food weekly.
The tank was cycled for about 3 months with my Tiger Barbs (Who now have a tank all to themselves because they're such little thugs!).
His appetite is unchanged. He is darting and rubbing against the Bogwood, obviously irritated by whatever it is. He is bright and happy most of the time but does turn black and quiet occasionally for no apparent reason so I assume it's because of the spots. The spots are raised and look like pustules. He has about a dozen. I first noticed it Thursday and he hasn't any new ones since then. I will post a couple of photos.
Can anyone tell me what this is, whether the treatment I have will work, whether it will harm him and therefore need a lower dose. Any and all information will be gratefully received. Thank you for reading.
Ammonia 0, Nitrite 0, pH 8.0, Nitrate 40. He's 4 years old and has always lived in this area with our chalky, high Nitrate water. He is in a 400l aquarium and is about 7 inches long.
He moved to us about 2 months ago. After a shaky week or so he settled in and has been eating well, is active and responsive and enjoying his new home.
He gets very stressed with water changes so we monitor the levels and do a 30% change every 2-3 weeks. We feed cockles and mussles daily or every other day and feeder shrimp every 1-2 weeks. He also gets occasional snails. I add Ferropol plant food weekly.
The tank was cycled for about 3 months with my Tiger Barbs (Who now have a tank all to themselves because they're such little thugs!).
His appetite is unchanged. He is darting and rubbing against the Bogwood, obviously irritated by whatever it is. He is bright and happy most of the time but does turn black and quiet occasionally for no apparent reason so I assume it's because of the spots. The spots are raised and look like pustules. He has about a dozen. I first noticed it Thursday and he hasn't any new ones since then. I will post a couple of photos.
Can anyone tell me what this is, whether the treatment I have will work, whether it will harm him and therefore need a lower dose. Any and all information will be gratefully received. Thank you for reading.
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Re: Ich-type white spots
my red eye puffer have something simillar too. Small grains but seems too big to be ich.. The strange thing is that it just come and go.. The other red eye sharing the tank never got infected at all. Its definitely not sand as the substrate is not sand and it last for a few days b4 dissapearing by itself..
I am not a Troll, I am just pissed..!
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Re: Ich-type white spots
That is ich if I am not mistaken.
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Re: Ich-type white spots
Looks like ich to me. Please be very careful using ANY meds on all for this! viewtopic.php?f=3&t=28113
2 days ago, my new parrot cichlid was covered in ich. Doing nothing more than adding vitamin C to er tank & 2 days later, I barely see any spots.
2 days ago, my new parrot cichlid was covered in ich. Doing nothing more than adding vitamin C to er tank & 2 days later, I barely see any spots.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
- Hufferpuffer
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Re: Ich-type white spots
Yes I thought it was ich but as I haven't seen it in the flesh before I wanted confirmation. Thanks for the link...I had already read the sticky and planned on using that method should you confirm my suspicions.
Vitamin C? Is it worth trying that for my Fahaka? I would like to try the gentlest option first. As she doesn't have a severe outbreak I think I could have time to try something gentler first. How much vitamin c should I add? What process? Many thanks.
Vitamin C? Is it worth trying that for my Fahaka? I would like to try the gentlest option first. As she doesn't have a severe outbreak I think I could have time to try something gentler first. How much vitamin c should I add? What process? Many thanks.
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Re: Ich-type white spots
I am adding 1 tsp, 2x/day to my 90g:
http://www.iherb.com/NutriBiotic-Sodium ... 10178?at=0
$10 off 1st time order with: LUL789 code. Free shipping at $20 (2 bottles)
http://www.iherb.com/NutriBiotic-Sodium ... 10178?at=0
$10 off 1st time order with: LUL789 code. Free shipping at $20 (2 bottles)
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: Ich-type white spots
It's primarily a gill parasite, they only move to the skin when the gills are full.... So the infestation is definately established
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Re: Ich-type white spots
Thanks bertie. The spots are on her back and not near his gills so I hadn't made that connection. I will start treatment.
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Re: Ich-type white spots
Don't throw out what pp said. It may well work. Maybe combine vc with heat and salt. Hit it doubly hard
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Re: Ich-type white spots
+1
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: Ich-type white spots
I may get some vc myself. Pp could you run off an article on dosage and uses etc
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Re: Ich-type white spots
I'm just dosing the same as in my reef tank:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=30163
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=30163
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Re: Ich-type white spots
Well I've started treatment and so far it's going ok. He's coping with the heat and salt and is his usual cheeky self. The first spots have burst but there are new ones. So one life cycle down, two to go! LOL
I'm only doing the salt and heat as the vit c hasn't arrived yet and didn't want to delay.
Thanks everyone for your advice and help. Fingers crossed we're on our way to clearing this up.
I'm only doing the salt and heat as the vit c hasn't arrived yet and didn't want to delay.
Thanks everyone for your advice and help. Fingers crossed we're on our way to clearing this up.
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Re: Ich-type white spots
Remember to gravel vac daily and do large waterchanges replacing lost salt. Also keep an eye on his breathing, adding an extra airstone wouldn't hurt either. Keep up the good work and good luck.
It's amazing how easy maintenance is. If done regularly and thoroughly