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20L up and running very well!

Postby Gooburz on Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:10 am

ok so 20L been up and running now for a couple weeks. Approx 30 lbs of live rock all cured and looking beautiful, still used a bottle of Dr Tim's though rock was fully cured. attached, let me know what you think of rock-scape. remember going to be a non puffer starter tank.

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Re: 20L up and running very well!

Postby puffykid on Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:50 pm

Its nice, whats going in the tank? You should get us up close pictures of the LR when it starts erupting with life.
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Re: 20L up and running very well!

Postby Gooburz on Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:28 pm

I'm going with a pair of clownfish (1 regular 1 black and white), fire fin goby, flame angel and thats about it. I got the live rock off of a guy on craigslist and he also frags corals for $10 a frag so maybe in a few months i might get something simple (and thats what he sells). I have about 30 lbs of live rock and the 25 lbs i got from him had all kinds of hitchhikers and the 1 bright purple rock i got from the LFS and it had a small starfish, too small to get a good pic. Also got 12 blue legged hermit crabs for clean-up crew and a few turbo snails hitchhikers.

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Re: 20L up and running very well!

Postby RTR on Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:08 am

Is this a joke? I do hope that it is. What does it hold, 8-10 gallons?
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Re: 20L up and running very well!

Postby Pufferpunk on Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:32 am

Way too many fish for a 20g with 30lbs LR.
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Re: 20L up and running very well!

Postby Gooburz on Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:18 am

@ RTR I still put in just over 15 gallons of water so 8-10 is way underestimated. @ PP i've always heeded to the advice on here more than anywhere else. What would you recommend for tank stocking?
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Re: 20L up and running very well!

Postby RTR on Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:32 am

Sorry, but I have grave reservations on the numbers cited. I have used a lot of 20-longs; most of the trials on F-8s were in those tanks - a room full of them at various specific gravities. They don't hold much water. Even if a 20L held 20 gallons without any substrate or rock (it does not even come close (no hobby tank does), that is insufficient water volume for the fish listed.

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Re: 20L up and running very well!

Postby Pufferpunk on Thu Aug 09, 2012 10:38 am

A pair of clowns (smaller species, like percs) would suffice but no anemone for them.
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Re: 20L up and running very well!

Postby Gooburz on Thu Aug 09, 2012 12:10 pm

sounds good to me PP, and i don't want anything to do with an anemone. RTR sorry if I came off a bit rude last post, had people at my desk drivin me crazy and i know you guys look out in the best interest for the hobby and the fish we keep.
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Re: 20L up and running very well!

Postby Nuclear_Glitter on Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:21 pm

What sort of equipment are you planning on running on there? (Just curious)
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Re: 20L up and running very well!

Postby Gooburz on Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:34 pm

For the lighting i'm using a Solarmax 30 quad 24 watt, approx 30lbs of live rock, aquaclear 30 with fliter floss and carbon media, Aqueon 500 and a aquaclear powerhead for circulation. As of right now no protein skimmer, along with reading on this forum and Nano-reef.com i've seen that a lot of people on nano-reef.com have been keeping smaller saltwater set-ups for years not needing one with no problems. I am not opposed to putting 1 on but if it is not needed I won't use one, i'm just going off of what people have used for set-ups and has worked for many years for them. As I said new to the hobby and always open to suggestion/advice from people who have done it for some time.

Using RO water from the LFS and its only 50 cents a gallon and thats fine for me to use until i can purchase an actual unit for my home. (suggestions for any particular unit are welcome! nothing huge or fancy needed)
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Re: 20L up and running very well!

Postby Pufferpunk on Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:46 pm

Dump the filter media in the AC 500 & just use it as a supply for good flow. The LR should be enough filtration. You could add a Backpac on there, I have one on my 15g frag tank.

http://www.bulkreefsupply.com, for RODI.
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Re: 20L up and running very well!

Postby Gooburz on Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:26 am

Pufferpunk wrote:Dump the filter media in the AC 500 & just use it as a supply for good flow. The LR should be enough filtration. You could add a Backpac on there, I have one on my 15g frag tank.

http://www.bulkreefsupply.com, for RODI.



Still ok to use it with filter floss though right? And thanks for the link for RODI.
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Re: 20L up and running very well!

Postby Pufferpunk on Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:14 am

I don't put anything in mine. All those FW media traps detritus & is a nitrate factory. Even LR rubble is a PITA.
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Re: 20L up and running very well!

Postby RTR on Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:02 pm

The whole point of LR is that it avoids relying on aerobic nitrification alone, and with anaerobic denitrification reduces nitrae/nitrite/ammonia to N2 gas which off-gases to the atmosphere. LR avoids the downside of aeroboc-only nitrification.

It is too bad that we can only have that effect in full marine conditions.

The situation with foam fractionators/skimmers is the same - they only operate really well in full marine conditions.

Life would be much easier if we had similar techniques available in FW and BW.
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