Tetra Safestart Test
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Re: Tetra Safestart Test
Day 2
pH 7.6
KH 6°
Ammonia 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 5.0
Barbra Streisand is doing fine, eating her algae wafers.
pH 7.6
KH 6°
Ammonia 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 5.0
Barbra Streisand is doing fine, eating her algae wafers.
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Re: Tetra Safestart Test
cool test. i was in a pinch once and used this product in BARELY cycled water and a few rocks out of a cycled tank and ilterally put a small yellow cichlid in the tank in 1 hour and he seemed unstressed and ate that day, survived without an issue. although that's not my regular practice, in a pinch it can be a lifesaver.
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Re: Tetra Safestart Test
Well if these numbers hold, which at this point I don't see why they wouldn't, for 13 - 20 dollars, I think it's worth it if you don't have an established tank to seed from, and you don't want to wait through a standard fishless cycle. But ultimately, I just wanted to make sure that under the correct conditions, this product indeed does what it claims to do. If the water is too soft/acidic, our the ammonia levels are too high, I don't suspect this product would work. But those are easy fixes to do before adding the product.
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Re: Tetra Safestart Test
This is amazing. However i will need a week or so's tests to believe it will do as it says maybe more. Keep those params coming. I just struggle with the concept lol. Look forward to reading more
It's amazing how easy maintenance is. If done regularly and thoroughly
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Re: Tetra Safestart Test
Day 3
pH 7.6
KH 6°
Ammonia 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 5.0
Barbra was fed 2 bottom feeder tabs the first day, and 2 algae wafer tabs the second day. I would have to say that this would likely produce enough ammonia to register on the test if this were not a cycled tank.
pH 7.6
KH 6°
Ammonia 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 5.0
Barbra was fed 2 bottom feeder tabs the first day, and 2 algae wafer tabs the second day. I would have to say that this would likely produce enough ammonia to register on the test if this were not a cycled tank.
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Re: Tetra Safestart Test
I helped a friend of mine set up a 10g for a single betta. We have very hard water, and the tank was very lightly stocked. Didn't work. Got another bottle. Didn't work. I think there's a lot of factors at play with this product.
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Re: Tetra Safestart Test
I think Barb herself produces a lot of ammonia lol
From this test and what others are saying, seems like you have to have the hardness right for this product to work. To soft or to hard and it wont work.
From this test and what others are saying, seems like you have to have the hardness right for this product to work. To soft or to hard and it wont work.
RTR wrote:Fahakas do not have tank mates, they may have swimming food reserves.
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Re: Tetra Safestart Test
I don't think there is a too hard, but the product may have been compromised during shipping. Or something.
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Re: Tetra Safestart Test
Live bacterial products are fragile in general. No questions or arguments from me on that.
Very short-term tests do not tell the whole story. The bacterial strains have to establish stable colonies. They have to persist in the tank indefinitely. There are lots of nitrification bacteria in the wild. But only a few will make persistent colonies in FW tanks. You cannot be confident in the bugs until after 4-6 weeks.
Very short-term tests do not tell the whole story. The bacterial strains have to establish stable colonies. They have to persist in the tank indefinitely. There are lots of nitrification bacteria in the wild. But only a few will make persistent colonies in FW tanks. You cannot be confident in the bugs until after 4-6 weeks.
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Re: Tetra Safestart Test
Day 4
pH 7.4
KH 5°
Ammonia 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 5.0
This may be an incomplete test then, I'm going to be planting the tank before 4-6 weeks ends :/
pH 7.4
KH 5°
Ammonia 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 5.0
This may be an incomplete test then, I'm going to be planting the tank before 4-6 weeks ends :/
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Re: Tetra Safestart Test
A tank will have cycled itself in around 4 weeks anyway so if the product can keep the tank cycled until then then you would expect not to suffer a crash?sevenyearnight wrote:Day 4
pH 7.4
KH 5°
Ammonia 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 5.0
This may be an incomplete test then, I'm going to be planting the tank before 4-6 weeks ends :/
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Re: Tetra Safestart Test
The tank will not suffer a crash after 4-6 weeks if the bugs are the correct ones which establish indefinitely in your tank. If they are not, the tank will crash. There have been products marketed in the past which worked temporarily but then died out. Those required chronic addition of the product every two weeks. NIMFT. We need bugs which can maintain themselves indefinitely in our tanks.
In healthy heavily planted tanks, the plants will out-compete the biofilter during the light cycle, but the biofilter will continue to be supported by the ammonia released during the periods when the plants are not actively photosynthesizing. The colonies will be significantly smaller than those in unplanted tanks, but still adequate to meet and handle the ammonia/nitrite levels available to them.
HTH
I do keep biofilters operating on all of my planted tanks. I consider it cheap insurance.
In healthy heavily planted tanks, the plants will out-compete the biofilter during the light cycle, but the biofilter will continue to be supported by the ammonia released during the periods when the plants are not actively photosynthesizing. The colonies will be significantly smaller than those in unplanted tanks, but still adequate to meet and handle the ammonia/nitrite levels available to them.
HTH
I do keep biofilters operating on all of my planted tanks. I consider it cheap insurance.
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Re: Tetra Safestart Test
I've used this stuff for both of my tanks, and its been well over 6 months.
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Re: Tetra Safestart Test
Sorry for the late post, I had a crazy day between errands, dogs shredding and decorating my living room with the contents of the kitchen trash, and giving my cat medicine, him grumbling and meowowororrrrrggggrrring, clawing my hands, me yelling ow, and the other very large cat attacking me because she thought I was hurting him and came to defend his honor.
Day 5
pH 7.4
KH 5°
Ammonia 0.0
Nitrite 0.0
Nitrate 5.0
Changes: I topped off the evaporation, about a half gallon, and added some flame moss, 2 small crypts, a few snails and some moneywort.
Day 5
pH 7.4
KH 5°
Ammonia 0.0
Nitrite 0.0
Nitrate 5.0
Changes: I topped off the evaporation, about a half gallon, and added some flame moss, 2 small crypts, a few snails and some moneywort.
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Re: Tetra Safestart Test
What a day = / hope that your weekend is better!sevenyearnight wrote:Sorry for the late post, I had a crazy day between errands, dogs shredding and decorating my living room with the contents of the kitchen trash, and giving my cat medicine, him grumbling and meowowororrrrrggggrrring, clawing my hands, me yelling ow, and the other very large cat attacking me because she thought I was hurting him and came to defend his honor.
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5.5g: Red Cherry Shrimp and Rams
10g: PZ the Pee Wee (DP), Ghost shrimp, Otos x3
36g: Luau the F8, Zebra nerites x8, sometimes a herd of ghost shrimp for food
60g: Perches the starry blenny, 1 watchman goby Snaps the l.c. hermit, 2 emerald crabs, 1 red crab, 2 turbos, 7 asteas, 2 nerites, 2 clown gobies and 2 firefish gobies (upgrading to a 90 gallon reef)
RIP Yoshi, you are dearly missed <3