trapped air? or something else?
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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: trapped air? or something else?
How's his appetite? I'd treat him again for IPs, maybe with something stronger like Prazi.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Re: trapped air? or something else?
thanks for all of the help you guys, but the little guy didn't make it:(
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Re: trapped air? or something else?
aww that sucks...
I'm sorry. do you happen to know was the root cause was now that you are able to take him out of the tank?
I'm sorry. do you happen to know was the root cause was now that you are able to take him out of the tank?
if you follow me, you avoid stepping in the crap that I just did...
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Re: trapped air? or something else?
also, in hope that maybe i could figure out what happened i made mom mom cut him open (gross, i know thats why she had to do it) to see if maybe he worms or something. but i didnt see anything wrong. i would really like to know what happened to him before i buy another. i think i bought this one sick though.
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Re: trapped air? or something else?
and to pufferpunk, he always ate very well
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Re: trapped air? or something else?
Was he always looking that thin & sickly?i think i bought this one sick though.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
- poopybarkflounder
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Re: trapped air? or something else?
not that thin and sickly, he always seemed happy. however his food would go away very quickly after feeding. i didnt know that wasnt supposed to happen until he got skinny. thats when i treated him. but he was very active and seemed happy up until today.
- Pufferpunk
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C valentini
C coranata
C papuan
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lorteti
DPs
suvattii
burrfish
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Re: trapped air? or something else?
So he had a round belly when you bought him?
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
- poopybarkflounder
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Re: trapped air? or something else?
i wouldnt say it was round. no..but it wasnt sunken in.
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Re: trapped air? or something else?
Sounds like it was def IPs to me. Next time get some PraziPro or something like that and treat him ASAP! As soon as you get him QT him and treat him. With something like PraziPro you can just treat the whole tank instead of getting him to eat the medicated food.